I watched a two hour condensed version on YouTube, but haven’t had much luck streaming the full 12 hour version - don’t know if the condensed version was from HBO or a fan. I have HBO on Roku, but you can only access Summer and Winter. Would love too see the whole thing though from the descriptions above, so will try the Facebook route this weekend.Jasper wrote:
Would I be correct in thinking that you didn't watch the 12-hour special?
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I've been watching it in the two parts on Facebook (you can access them without being a FB user - I'm not). Very slowly due to other distractions, lol. I'm halfway through now, 3 weeks later, and hope to wrap it in the next few days and move on to Winter/Naomie Harris' section of the series. Autumn is a beyond mesmerizing experience.
I hear they cut some of Jess/Katherine Waterston's bits out of the 2-hour edit. I hope not, they're key IMO, as is the stuff with Epona's father and the doomsaying woman.
I hear they cut some of Jess/Katherine Waterston's bits out of the 2-hour edit. I hope not, they're key IMO, as is the stuff with Epona's father and the doomsaying woman.
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I’ve still got about 4.5 hours to go, and probably won’t finish tonight due to work and the Presidential debate. The sequence with Epona’s father (Jason I think?) was mesmerizing.N. Needleman wrote:
I hear they cut some of Jess/Katherine Waterston's bits out of the 2-hour edit. I hope not, they're key IMO, as is the stuff with Epona's father and the doomsaying woman.
Jess’s character “twist” was the one thing I really disliked in Summer. It felt both predictable and unearned, as well as rather nonsensical. (Why on Earth would her kids be in the Big House? Why wouldn’t her husband have them wherever he lives?) But Waterston is great and I loved Jess throughout Summer up until that reveal. I’m hoping the character gets some more to do.
I get the appeal of a two-hour edit just to catch up on all the plot points (of which there frankly aren’t many, at least as of where I am), but viewers are really missing out on the experience by not watching the thing in full.
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It’s comforting to know there are others in the universe without a Facebook account.
This is probably reaching, but I wonder if only being able to watch the live event on Facebook was by design. I’m guessing there are other reasons for that which have nothing to do with the show itself, but it’s ironic the only way you can watch events unfolding on an island secluded from the rest of the world is on Facebook.
I have some thoughts about Jess, but it has spoilers, so don’t read until you’ve watched Winter:
This is probably reaching, but I wonder if only being able to watch the live event on Facebook was by design. I’m guessing there are other reasons for that which have nothing to do with the show itself, but it’s ironic the only way you can watch events unfolding on an island secluded from the rest of the world is on Facebook.
I have some thoughts about Jess, but it has spoilers, so don’t read until you’ve watched Winter:
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I mean, it's a pretty traditional staple of the paranoia thriller/cult genre - the one trusted person turns out to be in on it too. But they drop many hints in the first two episodes in hindsight, there's clearly more to Jess we're not privvy to yet. I couldn't tell during Summer if she and her husband were part of the cult, or if he was part of something else. It seems the Jess situation with her husband's calls continues to evolve throughout the Autumn livestream too. (That's also clearly her two girls wandering around throughout Autumn, IMO - you can see her watching them run around and play when she's sitting at the table when she's first revealed.)Mr. Reindeer wrote:Jess’s character “twist” was the one thing I really disliked in Summer. It felt both predictable and unearned, as well as rather nonsensical. (Why on Earth would her kids be in the Big House? Why wouldn’t her husband have them wherever he lives?) But Waterston is great and I loved Jess throughout Summer up until that reveal. I’m hoping the character gets some more to do.
Also, is it me or is Jess' omnipresent red raincoat - seen in episode 3 but also throughout Autumn - a direct reference to Nicolas Roeg's Don't Look Now?
I suspect the stuff with the doomsaying woman turning up over and over to insist Sam is the wrong choice for the Father ("Osea will burn!") - something Larry picks up on and begs the townsfolk to listen to as well, while also heavily implying that Jess is pregnant with Sam's child - is also pretty important.I get the appeal of a two-hour edit just to catch up on all the plot points (of which there frankly aren’t many, at least as of where I am), but viewers are really missing out on the experience by not watching the thing in full.
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Some people haven't watched Autumn at all, some have not finished watching Autumn, and some haven’t watched Winter.
For this reason it would probably be good to spoiler tag anything from Autumn or Winter.
This clusterfuck of a spoiler situation is one of the reasons that I didn’t make this thread myself.
For this reason it would probably be good to spoiler tag anything from Autumn or Winter.
This clusterfuck of a spoiler situation is one of the reasons that I didn’t make this thread myself.
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Thoughts on the rest of Autumn:
Winter:
I’ll again recommend The Young Pope (and its sequel, The New Pope) for anyone in the mood for another moody, sometimes-mesmerizing HBO show with Law giving a different but equally electric performance.
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Even putting aside the narrative issues, Winter simply lacked the flare of Summer and Autumn. It felt much more like standard television fare.
Summer and Autumn can basically stand on their own. Winter feels like someone else came along and decided to create an unnecessary addendum to Summer and Autumn, and didn't do a particularly good job of it. There were definitely some things I enjoyed about it, but ultimately, for me, it drags the whole project down. I think it would have been much more effective to simply stop with Autumn. How are you supposed to top that anyway?
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Summer and Autumn can basically stand on their own. Winter feels like someone else came along and decided to create an unnecessary addendum to Summer and Autumn, and didn't do a particularly good job of it. There were definitely some things I enjoyed about it, but ultimately, for me, it drags the whole project down. I think it would have been much more effective to simply stop with Autumn. How are you supposed to top that anyway?
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Jasper wrote:Even putting aside the narrative issues, Winter simply lacked the flare of Summer and Autumn. It felt much more like standard television fare.
Summer and Autumn can basically stand on their own. Winter feels like someone else came along and decided to create an unnecessary addendum to Summer and Autumn, and didn't do a particularly good job of it. There were definitely some things I enjoyed about it, but ultimately, for me, it drags the whole project down.
Major Autumn spoilers:
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Jasper wrote:Mr. Reindeer wrote:Spoiler:Spoiler:
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I guess I've been thinking that they'd already killed Jason's son by the time that Nathan died. I'm probably not remembering things with sufficient detail. Do we have any idea how far away Goltan was hiding out?Mr. Reindeer wrote:Why on Earth did they need to kill Jason’s son if Nathan was actually dead? They had their fall guy in Goltan, who actually killed Nathan and turned himself in. Why throw Nathan’s body in the water and murder another child to create a decoy corpse for absolutely no reason? I guess this is an argument for those who want to say Nathan is actually alive and magically young (and lighter skinned) for some unexplained reason, but I find that deeply unsatisfying too. This is one of those stories that just gets messier the more you think about it.
(I'm not spoilering this part because I think that everyone in the thread has seen Summer and Winter.)
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Ahh, that’s probably it. I remember them making it a point in Winter that Goltan was supposed to “lay low” for awhile, which doesn’t make a ton of sense. Why wouldn’t they just tell him to return to Osea immediately where they could hide Nathan? I wonder if the authorities actually searched on Osea at all.Jasper wrote:I guess I've been thinking that they'd already killed Jason's son by the time that Nathan died. I'm probably not remembering things with sufficient detail. Do we have any idea how far away Goltan was hiding out?Mr. Reindeer wrote:Why on Earth did they need to kill Jason’s son if Nathan was actually dead? They had their fall guy in Goltan, who actually killed Nathan and turned himself in. Why throw Nathan’s body in the water and murder another child to create a decoy corpse for absolutely no reason? I guess this is an argument for those who want to say Nathan is actually alive and magically young (and lighter skinned) for some unexplained reason, but I find that deeply unsatisfying too. This is one of those stories that just gets messier the more you think about it.
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Oh, that’s great to know! That was possibly my favorite scene in the entire thing. Do you have a link to the interview?Jasper wrote:Autumn spoiler:
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