Re: Why exactly did ABC treat the show so badly?
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:23 pm
I don't feel the need to justify my general opinion to you, the one I've formed on personal observation. Nor do I feel an obligation to conduct a scientific survey and enlighten you with its results. If you haven't come to the same - or at least similar - impression like I did, based on the years-long experience witnessing various fan debates and discussions about Lynch and his work, I certainly am not gonna change your mind with whatever I say in this regard. My only advice to you would be to read through some of the boards on this forum with post-S3 posts and try to look at the material without bias. I do find it interesting that you only have problem with my - admittedly emotionally stated - post, calling it without basis in reality, acerbic, and whatnot, and at the same time not with another post claiming that the only anti-S3 content being posted in here is just "the same negative rant over and over again" - based on this, I'd say your judgement is clouded, to say the least, and you're not even aware of it.Rainwater wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:35 amOh God. I'm sorry for going off topic, but I can't not respond to this. This is the singular thing that's said every now and then on this forum that pisses me off the most out of anything I've ever read here.Agent Earle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:50 pm... and as long as it's not the same 5 board members gushing over every single aspect of The Return and the Master that Can Do No Wrong in every thread, every day. Goes both ways.eyeboogers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:59 am
It is certainly not my intention to further derail this thread, I think Brad's critique of those that liked the new series completely misses the mark. And I think everyone here is interested in nuanced debate on every incarnation of Twin Peaks. As long as it's not the same 5 board members posting the exact same negative rant in every thread, every day.
Specifically, this:literally what are you talking about?? What do you mean???the Master that Can Do No Wrong
What is this strawman of all strawmen? Show me a single person on this forum (real, not a figment of your imagination) who thinks this, or has an attitude of Lynch or his work being in any way perfect or infallible, or thinks TPTR is an absolutely flawless work of art, or anything else implied by the above strawman. Literally show me one. I dare you. I fucking double dare you!
Alright guys, please speak up, all you Lynch fanboys. Let me make a prediction, though, of how an imagined questionnaire might go:
Anyone on this forum who thinks Lynch's work is flawless? [crickets] Anyone think he can "do no wrong"? [crickets] Anyone think he as a person or artist is without fault? [crickets] Anyone here who loves all of his work equally? [crickets] Anyone with a tattoo of his face? No?
Seriously, what? Personally, I love The Return. For all its flaws, which there are plenty of in my view, and I'm happy to acknowledge them, it's still one of my favorite works of art ever. And yet, there are several of Lynch's works I don't care for at all. Most of them, in fact. I bet almost anyone here could say the same, that some of the stuff he's made just doesn't do it for you.
So where's that coming from? Why do I see that kind of strawman from people who didn't like The Return time and time again? What's the problem? Are you just completely unable or unwilling to deal with the fact that a specific work of art you dislike is earnestly and unpretentiously loved by others, so you imagine they're some kind of cultist worshipping at the feet of the artist? Is that it? I don't get it. Please help me understand. What am I missing here?
P.S. I hope you don't take my mildly agitated tone as any kind of personal attack, and furthermore I hope you don't take it as any kind of evidence that your presumed perspective of those deluded Lynch lovers is true - the reason I'm pissed is precisely because of how absurdly far from reality it is.
P.P.S. And please don't tell me it was "banter" or you were just being facetious or whatever. This precise sentiment has been expressed in a very acerbic tone both here on this forum and elsewhere(if not by you specifically, then by others), to the point where I'm sure the people who say that kind of thing really mean something by it, and believe it.