Season 4? Or is it over after this?

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I don't know about the political issues (I thought Lynch's quote was pretty clear to begin with) but reading Conversations with MF, I had a distinct feeling he was slightly annoyed or frustrated with Lynch and that he felt Lynch was at his best working alone. Now some of those questions were a bit leading as well, I'd have to try and look for some of those quotes but that's the impression I got. It certainly made me think their future collaboration was unlikely.
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When I was rewatching part 18 of S3, the interior of the car that Cooper and Diane were in (after they had "crossed the threshold") caught my attention, it was not a modern car, its steering wheel was rather old fashioned (slim), likewise for the seats, while Cooper and Diane had that retro look (cue Cooper's hair). As they entered the motel room, you could see that the camera panning was halted just as it was about to expose the part of the wall where the TV set would appear in the morning. They did use the same room, but they tried to hide anything modern looking about it (which is why I think it was shot in the dark, did they ever turn the lights on?). It was not the same motel in the morning though, and neither was the car. I'd have to rewatch this though once more though. So time travel seemed to play a role there. When Richard wakes up it is the "present", but when they crossed the threshold "the day before" it looked like 50s to me. So maybe the story could be about something related exclusively to this piece of part 18, which would make sense if that were the place where to continue the story anyway.
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Oh shit.

I'll see you again in 25 years. Who said it had to be in the future. What if it was 25 year in the past.

What year is this?

Just got a slight chill through my spine.

I do think Cooper has been on this crossing/mission dozens or hundreds of times. That's possibly why he's so jaded in P18. So functionary and mercenary. He knew what "430" was without being told it means miles on a dashboard. He knew exactly what he wanted from Diane at the motel. By rote.
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There was something about that scene, especially when I realised that transmission towers behind Cooper resembled the giant and the dwarf from the Owl Cave map.
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Brad D wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:31 pm Southerland’s statements about Mark’s contributions to the Return, and her seeming to distance him and the books from everything always came off so odd. As an invested fan, that diminished the importance of the books in the grand scheme to me. I know not all agree, but a United front across mediums would have been more exciting.
Hasn’t that always been Lynch’s attitude about tie-in material? He tolerates it but wants his films to stand alone.

Jennifer Lynch once said she thought her dad never read Secret Diary.

If he never even read his own daughters tie-in novel, why would he read Frost’s?
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He did read his daughter's book, though. Even wrote a forward to the latest edition.

The Return, which he co-wrote, quotes directly from that book. So does the S2 opening episode which he direcrd

Lynch was rude about Mark's book. It was rude to declare it "his verison" in such a public and dismissive way, void of any context.
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Maybe Reindeer or LateReg can give their thoughts, but I think Lynch would view a tie-in novel as maybe giving too many secrets away.

Basically Frost’s book spoon feeds the idea of Sarah as the New Mexico girl.

Now most people on this board assume New Mexico girl is Sarah.

But in Lynch’s mind, New Mexico girl may be ....New Mexico girl.

And Lynch may not like naming her as a specific TP character.
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I didn't like that, either tbf.

Still, they're equal custodians of a passion project. Lynch should have shown some more deference to that in his public statements. Must have been humiliating for Mark.
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Anything ever come of that Half Mermaid/video game announcement? Has it happened yet? Not seeing anything on social media. I doubt it's directly related to Lynch/UN but they got me curious about it now. Well played, guys!
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Histeria wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:25 pm I do think Cooper has been on this crossing/mission dozens or hundreds of times. That's possibly why he's so jaded in P18. So functionary and mercenary. He knew what "430" was without being told it means miles on a dashboard. He knew exactly what he wanted from Diane at the motel. By rote.
My theory is that Cooper's personality in 18 is the result of creating the new "Dougie" who goes back to Janey-E and and Sonny Jim. In "Twin Peaks" world, the tulpa/doppelganger is a part of you that splits off. Cooper gave "Dougie" his own warmth and capacity to love and basically everything that would make a good husband and father. The Cooper in Odessa is what's left of himself after splitting in two again.
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Ickles wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:52 pm Anything ever come of that Half Mermaid/video game announcement? Has it happened yet? Not seeing anything on social media. I doubt it's directly related to Lynch/UN but they got me curious about it now. Well played, guys!
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boske wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:22 pm When I was rewatching part 18 of S3, the interior of the car that Cooper and Diane were in (after they had "crossed the threshold") caught my attention, it was not a modern car, its steering wheel was rather old fashioned (slim), likewise for the seats, while Cooper and Diane had that retro look (cue Cooper's hair). As they entered the motel room, you could see that the camera panning was halted just as it was about to expose the part of the wall where the TV set would appear in the morning. They did use the same room, but they tried to hide anything modern looking about it (which is why I think it was shot in the dark, did they ever turn the lights on?). It was not the same motel in the morning though, and neither was the car. I'd have to rewatch this though once more though. So time travel seemed to play a role there. When Richard wakes up it is the "present", but when they crossed the threshold "the day before" it looked like 50s to me. So maybe the story could be about something related exclusively to this piece of part 18, which would make sense if that were the place where to continue the story anyway.
Great thoughts. But for the record, Diane does turn the lights on upon entering the hotel room. Cooper then tells her to turn off the light. When the light is on it is peculiarly harsh, btw. Like, pretty much garishly bright, and Cooper even winces and squints. It's almost like Lynch just left that 5-second part of that scene totally natural, like seeing yourself in a mirror in unforgiving lighting.
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Unrecorded Night has multiple representations in letters.

Not what it seems is correct.

POC is not an abbreviation or shorthand, all letters are words

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Mordeen wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:42 pm Wisteria is a constant.

Unrecorded Night has multiple representations in letters.

Not what it seems is correct.

POC is not an abbreviation or shorthand, all letters are words

Alas, 2022 was a typo. It was supposed to be 2021.

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Mordeen wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:42 pm POC is not an abbreviation or shorthand, all letters are words
Is it an acronym?
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