Season 4? Or is it over after this? Wisteria/Unrecorded Night? Something else? (Speculation thread.)

[JackwithOneEye]

I knew that a Jessie Pinkman film was in the works, but I was taken aback when I saw the first Camino trailer, I had thought it hadn't started shooting yet and I was a bit surprised.

But then again, while I enjoy Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul, i'm not on whatever the equivalent is of the Dugpa forum is in the Breaking Bad fan world that tracks production details like hawks.

[Histeria]

Kyle's in WA today, for what it's worth. Presumably Sponane or his Walla Walla wine tasting room.

[Agent Earle]

Trying to catch up on the flurry of new psots. I've made it through three or four pages so that's most of them - seems I haven't missed much today?

Maybe if you'd try checking back in a year...

[Mr. Reindeer]

I knew that a Jessie Pinkman film was in the works, but I was taken aback when I saw the first Camino trailer, I had thought it hadn't started shooting yet and I was a bit surprised.

But then again, while I enjoy Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul, i'm not on whatever the equivalent is of the Dugpa forum is in the Breaking Bad fan world that tracks production details like hawks.

I believe there were a few scattered reports of it during location shooting. They did a remarkably good job of keeping it below the radar, but there were definitely articles here and there saying that it was probably a Breaking Bad/Jesse movie.

[JackwithOneEye]

there's been some guest stars on episodic series that have been kept well under wraps in the past, but I can't remember any other productions as successfully off the radar as El Camino.

[pinballmars]

If the new Lynch project isn't Season 4, I hope some of you will be okay.

[enumbs]

If the new Lynch project isn't Season 4, I hope some of you will be okay.

As long as there’s a new Lynch project in the works (and I think it’s undeniable there is), then I’m happy, Peaks or otherwise.

[AXX°N N.]

I feel if if was upto the network they'd announce far sooner. Imagine the PR liason meetings:

"So everyone on twitter who mentioned our show thinks it's Twin Peaks. Every Twin Peaks community is at each others' throats because they think it's Twin Peaks. It's not Twin Peaks, but 90% of the discourse surrounding our show is speculation on whether it IS Twin Peaks. Let's just continue letting this escalate for five months and hope that sense of anticipation is transferable when we finally announce that Marylin Monroe biopic/Elephant Man sequel/Video Game tie-in we ordered."

"Sounds good! That's the foresight we pay you for."

I know it's basically how the world works already in many cases, but isn't it a nightmare world where whatever it is randos on the internet are spreading among themselves, suddenly it becomes an obligation to fold one's hand?

As someone who believes really strongly in privacy and one's right to do whatever one wishes to do, especially if it's unlivable otherwise, I really don't think the narrative about what people speculate it is or not should have any affect whatsoever on what it is or what route it takes getting out into the world.

If Lynch paid any more attention to this kind of thing than he already does, which I assume is not at all, he wouldn't have as much time to make stuff, much less enjoy getting out of bed.

[Histeria]

I mean yes but managing stakeholder relations is part of their remit so refusing to manage stakeholder expectations goes against their interests in that sense. Isn't this the job? Even Sabrina (if you take it at face value) posted on her private FB page that her public twitter page is just personal photos.

And it's really not that deep. We're not talking the Snyder Cut here. The question was whether the network would or wouldn't announce and I was talking from the network's perspective. Not managing these expectations is not in their interests and it's what these companies pay millions of dollars for achieving year.

I work in research on social media and journalism coverage for corporate clients. They pay my firm to find out what people are saying and thinking about their products to the most granular and hyperspecific level, taking the world as it is not as some utopia where "fans don't tip their hand." It's less that they're doing this to appease fans or journalists, but more "this is happening to damage our PR standing, how do we react to it?" Pure self-interest.

If you're talking Lynch himself then yes, I'm sure he doesn't care as much as the network would. But the question wasn't "does the artist want to manage expectations and announce," it was "does the network want to."

From a corporate perspective there are 100s of high-profile examples for expectation management every month. If this wasn't Lynch and was a network less accommodating, it wouldn't have played out this way. It wouldn't have played out this way at all (edit: if we assume this isn't Twin Peaks related for the purpose of this discussion).

[AXX°N N.]

At what point had the deal with Showtime been struck, and how long was it before Lynch & Frost tweeted, though?

Lynch clearly didn't follow the usual parlance when he outright got fed up and walked off, much to the befuddlement of the executives.

I just don't think thinking of it from the executive standpoint makes sense when we don't have a very clear idea of exactly how much autonomy Lynch has carved out for himself. I'd wager quite a bit.

[underthefan]

If the new Lynch project isn't Season 4, I hope some of you will be okay.

There may be another "profoundly disappointed" group.

[Histeria]

And a "profoundly embarrassed" thread.

[Stavrogyn]

Both of these ideas, a profoundly disappointed and a profoundly embarrassed thread, could be applied to life in general, not just to this case, and I would be happy to post there even much more than here. At least I would have more to say

[underthefan]

Conversely if there is a S4, I will join the "profoundly embarrassed (but happy anyway)" thread.

[Jonah]

Why would there be an embarrassment thread? I know you guys are just joking around, but why would there be any need for anyone to be embarrassed - no matter which way you're advocating, it's all just speculation and no one really knows anything.