Season 4? Or is it over after this? Wisteria/Unrecorded Night? Something else? (Speculation thread.)

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The Lich is the last person in the universe you want on your tail. After Judy, maybe
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Agent Earle wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:33 am @David Lich

Interesting avatar you have there. :) Mind telling me where it's from?
The Lich, from Adventure Time, its Kind of the BOB - Judy of the series. theres a couple of Parallels between AT and TP,... Doppelgangers and Tulpas, Dreams and more..:

https://picosgemelos.tumblr.com/tagged/Adventure-Time
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David Lich wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 7:39 am
Agent Earle wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:33 am @David Lich

Interesting avatar you have there. :) Mind telling me where it's from?
The Lich, from Adventure Time, its Kind of the BOB - Judy of the series. theres a couple of Parallels between AT and TP,... Doppelgangers and Tulpas, Dreams and more..:

https://picosgemelos.tumblr.com/tagged/Adventure-Time
Didn’t Michael J. Anderson do a voice in an episode as well?
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Mr. Reindeer wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 8:53 am
David Lich wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 7:39 am
Agent Earle wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:33 am @David Lich

Interesting avatar you have there. :) Mind telling me where it's from?
The Lich, from Adventure Time, its Kind of the BOB - Judy of the series. theres a couple of Parallels between AT and TP,... Doppelgangers and Tulpas, Dreams and more..:

https://picosgemelos.tumblr.com/tagged/Adventure-Time
Didn’t Michael J. Anderson do a voice in an episode as well?
Yes!, he did, I didnt knew...

https://adventuretime.fandom.com/wiki/M ... ._Anderson

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You can hear David Lynch's stomach rumbling in today's weather report. Any sleuths want to look into that?

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I thought I heard something like that!
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I've been thinking about how Kyle put up a video of him working out and said he was prepping for something big, then later said this about his new role:

“It requires a little bit of a physical change, and I’m embracing that, which is really fun.”

(This sounds to me like something other than or more than just working out - like shaving his head or some other physical alteration.)

Now, obviously as an actor it could be any role unrelated to Lynch (though there's currently nothing on his IMDB, even forthcoming), but it did make me think about Laura Dern's comment about Lynch asking her to shave her head.

"When two separate events occur simultaneously pertaining to the same object of inquiry, we must always pay strict attention.”

So if they're both preparing to make physical changes for a new Lynch project, and if it's not TP (or even if it is), but if it's not, and people on here recently mentioned aliens in the Antelope script, could it be something along these lines (either exactly or something similar)? If so, very sad it's not TP, but still exciting if it's a new Lynch project and they're playing aliens or some other type of character or creature that requires physical changes.
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Didn’t Kyle say on Colbert or somewhere that the “physical challenge” project is a project he’s producing, unrelated to Lynch? Or am I misremembering?
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Not sure, but is the physical change comment related to that (and the working out) or something else? He might have said one was related to his own project, the other related to an upcoming (undisclosed) role. Either way, it just struck me as odd that both Kyle and Dern have mentioned a physical change for an upcoming role, and we know Dern was speaking directly about Lynch. I just wonder if this really is a new show - with elements or lots of the script of Antelope and his other unproduced scripts, which would also explain why Mark Frost isn't involved and why Kyle is saying unlikely/unsure about new Peaks. Wisteria/Unrecorded Night may be a new Lynch project, but I'm really starting to doubt it's connected to Peaks, after previously thinking and hoping that it was.
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http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 84#p126484

I was thinking of this. It appeared from your transcription that the two thoughts were related although I didn’t listen to it.
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Mr. Reindeer wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 11:41 am http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 84#p126484

I was thinking of this. It appeared from your transcription that the two thoughts were related although I didn’t listen to it.
Ah, you're right - it does sound like one of his own projects, reading through the full quote again. (I hadn't listened to it either, just reposted what @fatecolossal said.) I had just seen the single line reposted on @fatecolssal's twitter. Though reading through the full thing again -

"Q: “Once things start to open up, what’s next for you?”
A: “... We’re looking for the next thing that I’m going to engage with. There’s a couple of opportunities, some things that I’m actually developing myself. And I’ll be posting occasionally about the progress for that. (cont)"

"(cont) “It requires a little bit of a physical change, and I’m embracing that, which is really fun.”


- what he's developing himself could be Lynch giving him a blueprint for a new character or role that he's developing himself.

I'm probably reaching there, though. It was just all the talk about the Antelope script then those two comments from Kyle and Laura Dern got me thinking along those lines.

It would make sense if Dern is playing an Antelope alien for Lynch to want her to shave her head. I know Diane wore wigs, but that doesn't feel right to me for some reason.
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Kyle just posted this image on Twitter. I know this is only promotion for his wine and a throwback to TP, but how amazing would this be if it was a hint (again, I know it's not) for a continuation (the "what year is this?" part) where Coop and Audrey meet again.
https://twitter.com/Kyle_MacLachlan/sta ... 7237617664
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Heh, that’s cute. I’m not reading anything into it at all. But it gave me a chuckle.
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its a pretty funny wine vintage joke. lol
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Pasting some of this discussion from another thread into this one as it feels more relevant here to anyone who's following along with speculation for the potential new season but may not be visiting all the other threads.
pinballmars wrote: I have no expectations at all. I think people sometimes ruin cool things for themselves by approaching them with heavy expectations for what it's going to be. They end up only being able to see what the work ISN'T rather than what it is.

Also, we don't know enough about this yet for me to expect anything. We're not even sure what the title is.

All I know for sure is that it's not TP-related. Mark Frost said on Twitter that he's not involved.
Jonah wrote: If you look in the main thread, that hasn't stopped people from still thinking it's TP-related (like FWWM). Though it does worry me and recently other things have also made me think it might not be TP, which I've also just been posting about in the other thread. http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3&p=127079
pinballmars wrote: If I had a nickel for every weird theory that came from nowhere other than someone's imagination about more Twin Peaks coming, I'd be dead.

Lynch and Frost are partners in Twin Peaks. Nothing happens with Twin Peaks without both off them at least approving it. Frost still has an exec producer credit on FWWM. He may have disagreed with its approach, but he still signed a few papers somewhere to make it happen. If Frost has zero involvement in this new Lynch project, it's NOT Twin Peaks and that's that.

It's nothing worry about, though! Lynch is a great filmmaker. Whatever this Netflix thing is, I will be planted on my couch for it.
Mr. Reindeer wrote: I don’t really expect this to be TP, but remember that Frost appears to have transferred his ownership of TP to Lynch (Frost is no longer a corporate officer of Twin Peaks Productions as of the most recent filings). So there is a possibility that it would happen without him.
Jonah wrote: I said a lot of this already in the Season 4 speculation thread, but is it possible Lynch and Frost wrote the script and/or a treatment or even just a bunch of ideas and Frost is taking a hands-off approach and leaving it to Lynch to actually film/produce the show with an executive producer credit but no direct involvement and/or Frost didn't write any of it and has given Lynch the permission to continue as he sees fit but with executive producer credit and/or he did write some or all of it then they had a quarrel and now he's letting Lynch proceed - or some combination/variation on any of that. In that case Frost could say he's not involved and it could still be TP.

But I am starting to (reluctantly) lean to it not being more TP based on other bits and pieces.
Mr. Reindeer wrote:
I would imagine that if Frost truly walked away from TP Productions (which is what it looks like), he probably completely washed his hands of whatever (if anything) is happening and wants nothing to do with it, for whatever reasons. I’m guessing he got a pretty big buyout from Lynch. Maybe it’s as simple as him just wanting the money as a nest egg (like how Dylan and other songwriters were recently selling their whole catalogues, Dylan after having spent his career insisting on keeping the rights for himself). Who knows. But it doesn’t sound like he’d have any credit/involvement in this.
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I'm not sure I was fully aware of this fact until your most recent post. I remember us all discussing something along these lines a while back, but not sure I realised he'd fully walked away (or at least isn't on any of the paperwork). Interesting. If anything that would seem to indicate the new show is TP or TP-related/adjacent then. LOL, just when I was starting to swing the other way, I feel pulled back!
Mr. Reindeer wrote: Mark’s son Travis is also probably about college aged now. (I found an interview with Mark from 2016 that mentions Travis attending a fancy prep school in Ojai.) Could be that maybe Mark wanted some tuition cash and asked David to buy him out. Again, who knows. I guess he could cowrite/produce without having ownership of the property, but my instinct is to take him at his word that he’s not involved.
Jonah wrote: Hmmm, it's certainly interesting - I would have thought Showtime/ABC/CBS might have bought him (and offered to buy Lynch out) as they'd have more cash. But maybe something like that went down with the new (presumably Netflix) deal. Maybe that was part of the quoted 85 million budget or whatever it was - a chunck to buy MF out. I'm not sure Lynch could have otherwise. It might have been part of the deal. Maybe he gets to keep an EP credit along with a created by or something. Maybe MF felt that after two books he had said all he wanted to about TP and was content to let Lynch go further down the rabbit hole especially if he disagreed with the direction/didn't connect with Lynch's vision/or simply didn't feel compelled to continue. (Such as not fully understanding Lynch incorporating the Richard/Lynda thing into Part 18, as we were discussing earlier, but not objecting to it either.)

How did it work with FWWM - I know he was off working on something else (Storyville or was that Season 2?) but presumably he must have gotten some proceeds from the movie, even if it didn't make much at the box office, and agreed to step aside and let Lynch write/direct.
Mr. Reindeer wrote: He got a ceremonial EP credit on FWWM because he was the co-owner of the property. I’m sure he got a piece of the profits as well for the same reason.
JackwithOneEye wrote: yeah, thats why I doubt Unrecorded is TP. I would think ceremonial EP credit on a high profile project with a legendary director is still enticing to get some salary/proceeds, unless he really hated the scripts and concept DL came up with a burning vengeance or something.
Jonah wrote: He could still be getting some of those things though - if it's all part of the deal with Netflix. An EP and co-creator credit and being bought out by Lynch or deciding to step away himself but with some other financial and creative conditions agreed to.
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