NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I am in total agreement with previous posts. I consider myself primarily Lynch and FWWM fan, and TP fan secondarily, so I personally would prefer a solid limited season that provides at least some kind of satisfactory closure, and then another film or TV show by Lynch or Lynch and Frost. Of course, it doesn't matter what we fans want, but what Lynch/Frost are interested in and willing to do, but I'd rather have them going out on a high note, rather than dragging it on and once again the show losing its strength and effectiveness. We all know it happened before.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I'm not sure what to expect. I think I do love "Twin Peaks" first, David Lynch second. And I loved the show more than FWWM. But, having said that, I loved the Lynch episodes of "Twin Peaks" more than the non-Lynch episodes. So...I'm not sure. I am hoping the return will be more "TP" than pure Lynch (aka "Inland Empire" - and this is from someone who did like that film and saw it twice in the cinema, including taking a six-hour return train journey to see it the first time! Though I haven't rewatched it since on DVD, whereas I rewatch "TP" regularly). I tend to think Frost kept Lynch in check more on the show, but having said that Episodes 14 & 29 are probably my favourite. I don't mind if it's more in line with Episode 29 or FWWM, but not sure I'd love it to be more like "Lost Highway" or "Inland Empire". I think what I want is cozy TP balanced with Lynch, a mixture of both, which I think is what made "TP" so strong when it did work - the cozy intercut with the disturbing and strange, though I have a feeling the new series won't really be like the old show, given the huge cast of characters and some of the regulars complaining about smaller roles. I'm expecting a series of tangents, viginettes, pure Lynch madness, and maybe only a little of the flavour of the old show - i.e. cast cameos, occasional brief visits to the town. Will be pleasantly surprised if there's more than that!
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I have no idea where this will lead us, but I have a definite feeling it will be a place both wonderful and strange.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Very true. And so I'm tampering my expectations and remaining open to whatever their vision is so as not to be disappointed that it's not what I want. And, while I know what I would want (I've written a possible Season 3 in my head many times in the last twenty years!), I'll be open to whatever they want to show us. It's their story after all.underthefan wrote:Of course, it doesn't matter what we fans want, but what Lynch/Frost are interested in and willing to do.
I have no idea where this will lead us, but I have a definite feeling it will be a place both wonderful and strange.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Couldn't disagree more.Agent Earle wrote:Look, the world with "bad" or, let's say, not optimal TP is waaay better than the one with no TP at all's all I'm sayin'.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
New article from The Guardian today - "Everything we know about the new season of Twin Peaks so far."
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... avid-lynch
Not really anything we don't already know - but a nice summary (a couple of mistakes - not sure Robert Forster is confirmed as replacing Truman?) and lovely photos.
Given what we're discussing, there's an apt quote from Lynch: “People expect things and hopefully their expectations are met when they see the thing,” he said.
Oh, and this - "However, Sherilyn Fenn let slip that Lynch had told her he would do more, if the reception was big enough." - though not sure how reliable that is.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... avid-lynch
Not really anything we don't already know - but a nice summary (a couple of mistakes - not sure Robert Forster is confirmed as replacing Truman?) and lovely photos.
Given what we're discussing, there's an apt quote from Lynch: “People expect things and hopefully their expectations are met when they see the thing,” he said.
Oh, and this - "However, Sherilyn Fenn let slip that Lynch had told her he would do more, if the reception was big enough." - though not sure how reliable that is.
I have no idea where this will lead us, but I have a definite feeling it will be a place both wonderful and strange.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I'm in favour of season 4 and 5....... IF AND ONLY IF they arise from the same optimal conditions as season 3:
- Lynch himself wanting it to continue, having ideas and being inspired
- Lynch writing and directing ALL episodes of season 4 and 5.
- Lynch being involved with the cutting, the music and all other aspects of the show.
If Lynch is not completely involved in every second of season 4/5, I want it to end with season 3. Moreover, I think I prefer Lynch making more movies (and/or new series) over him making season 4/5 of TP.
Someone said it nicely earlier: "More than anything, season 3 is about the return of Lynch after Inland Empire". This is maybe not objectively true, but certainly how it feels for me personally.
- Lynch himself wanting it to continue, having ideas and being inspired
- Lynch writing and directing ALL episodes of season 4 and 5.
- Lynch being involved with the cutting, the music and all other aspects of the show.
If Lynch is not completely involved in every second of season 4/5, I want it to end with season 3. Moreover, I think I prefer Lynch making more movies (and/or new series) over him making season 4/5 of TP.
Someone said it nicely earlier: "More than anything, season 3 is about the return of Lynch after Inland Empire". This is maybe not objectively true, but certainly how it feels for me personally.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I will also wait what the new season will bring us. I think Lynch told us that he would be open to more TP. And if Lynch and Frost have other good ideas for new seasons, why not? The world of TP is so big and complex that I can easily see that. But let's wait for the new season.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I think Lynch's reasoning to bring back Twin Peaks wasn't for it's prescience and prestige in it's reputation today, nor even for the fans, but for pure fulfillment. Lynch dearly loves Twin Peaks, and it's people and feelings. Mädchen Amick reported how he was moved to tears on set. I don't think he, at least, will do anything further with Twin Peaks that doesn't resonate with him deeply in some way.
I'm feeling like Lynch is working with so many of the actors from his past projects over the years because he knows it may be the last 'major' project he makes, of this career-defining magnitude. Twin Peaks: The Return is a very palpable summation in his body of work, at least in my eyes. He's got The Art Life for his young daughter to know, he's solidifying his own story in Life & Work.
There's something very final about all this. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. Like some of you have said, I don't want Twin Peaks continuing beyond Season 3 for the pure reason of it 'existing', and I don't believe it will happen. If it does, I think it will be something like Darkened Room; something more abstracted than we can recognize. But this season is enough in my eyes.
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I'm feeling like Lynch is working with so many of the actors from his past projects over the years because he knows it may be the last 'major' project he makes, of this career-defining magnitude. Twin Peaks: The Return is a very palpable summation in his body of work, at least in my eyes. He's got The Art Life for his young daughter to know, he's solidifying his own story in Life & Work.
There's something very final about all this. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. Like some of you have said, I don't want Twin Peaks continuing beyond Season 3 for the pure reason of it 'existing', and I don't believe it will happen. If it does, I think it will be something like Darkened Room; something more abstracted than we can recognize. But this season is enough in my eyes.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I think you forgot Mark Frost in there somewhere, he would also been needed to want to do this and write with DL.Rhodes wrote:I'm in favour of season 4 and 5....... IF AND ONLY IF they arise from the same optimal conditions as season 3:
- Lynch himself wanting it to continue, having ideas and being inspired
- Lynch writing and directing ALL episodes of season 4 and 5.
- Lynch being involved with the cutting, the music and all other aspects of the show.
If Lynch is not completely involved in every second of season 4/5, I want it to end with season 3. Moreover, I think I prefer Lynch making more movies (and/or new series) over him making season 4/5 of TP.
Someone said it nicely earlier: "More than anything, season 3 is about the return of Lynch after Inland Empire". This is maybe not objectively true, but certainly how it feels for me personally.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
IIRC I remember her saying this on a video interview and on a podcast, but I'm not sure.Jonah wrote:
Oh, and this - "However, Sherilyn Fenn let slip that Lynch had told her he would do more, if the reception was big enough." - though not sure how reliable that is.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
A few posters have added a necessary clarification to what I've previously written. I want the next Lynch project to be whatever resonates with him most. If it was another season of Twin Peaks, three or four years down the road, then that's great! As we all should by now know, he doesn't do anything that he doesn't absolutely want to be doing. But as others have said, this feels final. I don't know how Lynch thinks about his own legacy, but 18 hours of the thing you're most famous for doing, with complete creative control and freedom to do it, certainly seems like the type of ambitious project that Lynch could very well know could be his magnum opus, perhaps even by design. But like I said, I don't know how he thinks in this regard. But yeah, long story short, whatever Lynch's heart is completely into, that's what I want to see next. I hope this ignites the flame for another feature film within the next couple years, personally.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Would and could are two entirely different words and I'm not sure any one specific person not names DKL or MF gets to be the arbiter of if future returns could or had caused devaluing of their story and their world.Metamorphia wrote:If Twin Peaks became an ongoing thing (a literal soap opera, running season after season every year) it would totally devalue everything good about it. Let's enjoy S3 and leave it there.
Nor has anyone in this thread offered up a desire for a never ending soap opera type of run, as you described to make your speculative point presented as fact.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Wow. What an avalanche of close-mindedness I've set off...
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but it seems that many people want a definitive ending to Twin Peaks with Season 3. I don't know what everyone's definition of "ending" is, but I fully expect that after I watch the final episodes in September, I will have many questions that will remain unanswered. Maybe not as many as I did after the S2 finale, but certainly Lynch won't wrap it up with a nice bow.
Essentially what I'm saying is that I think the last episodes will leave it somewhat open-ended....which could lead to more or maybe not. I just hope people are tempering their expectations to having a very final ending, as that's not how Lynch has ever operated.
And I'm sure most of you already know this......
Essentially what I'm saying is that I think the last episodes will leave it somewhat open-ended....which could lead to more or maybe not. I just hope people are tempering their expectations to having a very final ending, as that's not how Lynch has ever operated.
And I'm sure most of you already know this......
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Maybe Lynch should take on multiple acting parts as well, or, how about that, embody every single character of his creation?Rhodes wrote:I'm in favour of season 4 and 5....... IF AND ONLY IF they arise from the same optimal conditions as season 3:
- Lynch himself wanting it to continue, having ideas and being inspired
- Lynch writing and directing ALL episodes of season 4 and 5.
- Lynch being involved with the cutting, the music and all other aspects of the show.
If Lynch is not completely involved in every second of season 4/5, I want it to end with season 3. Moreover, I think I prefer Lynch making more movies (and/or new series) over him making season 4/5 of TP.
Someone said it nicely earlier: "More than anything, season 3 is about the return of Lynch after Inland Empire". This is maybe not objectively true, but certainly how it feels for me personally.