Season 4? Or is it over after this?

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DougieJones wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm I think Mark will receive a ceremonial executive producer credit like FWWM and The Missing Pieces. After all it still will be characters he co created.
I agree, at the very least he has to get a "based on characters created by" credit, plus if he did step aside there's clearly going to be a financial agreement to do so, and he is likely to still receive a percentage of any sales. There could even be an agreement in place for him to right more books, though the last one had "Final" in the title.
DougieJones wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm I think at this point I’m at the theory that this will be a 1950’s TP season without Frost’s involvement
I'm not crazy about that idea myself, but we'll see. (I'm fine with some 50's stuff but not a whole season's worth.)
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Ugh, I hate this political crap constantly getting mixed up in art.
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It seems to have filtered in to a lot of stuff lately - other movies, books, Stephen King is another good example. Then again, the current era has been very political, the whole world was watching the US president, that one in particular, and great art often does reflect the world's climate. (Brexit also filtered into some stuff, though not nearly as much?) It is a bit annoying seeing people fighting about it on social media and falling out over it, or it being worked into every storyline, etc. (Even the sitcom WIll and Grace, and all kinds of other media too!) But it is what it is, I guess. At least Twin Peaks itself didn't really have very heavy examples of this bleeding into it's actual on screen storyline.
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Jonah wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:47 pm
DougieJones wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm I think Mark will receive a ceremonial executive producer credit like FWWM and The Missing Pieces. After all it still will be characters he co created.
I agree, at the very least he has to get a "based on characters created by" credit, plus if he did step aside there's clearly going to be a financial agreement to do so, and he is likely to still receive a percentage of any sales. There could even be an agreement in place for him to right more books, though the last one had "Final" in the title.
DougieJones wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm I think at this point I’m at the theory that this will be a 1950’s TP season without Frost’s involvement
I'm not crazy about that idea myself, but we'll see. (I'm fine with some 50's stuff but not a whole season's worth.)
That’s one of my big questions Jonah. Whether or not it takes place entirely in the 1950’s. Also sorry for exposing all of your posts Mordeen I feel bad! But I realized that the radio pic uploaded by Mordeen was of a girl listening to FDR. Obviously we know Kyle played FDR very recently so will we see a grey haired Coop sent back to the 50’s?
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I feel it won't be entirely set in the 50's if it goes that route. It might explore more of the origin of Judy/Sarah as a little girl, but I can't see a direct time travel route, plus it didn't seem like Richard and Carrie were in the past (if it picks up there, if the dream wasn't shattered with the scream, etc.). Also, as others have pointed out on here, Frost would likely have been interested in a 50's-set prequel, so I don't see it myself. Might be a part of it, certainly, but doubt it will be a full thing or a direct time-travel storyline.
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Jonah wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:17 pm Frost may have even viewed that as being too kind to the then president and too forgiving. I think Frost was just of the opinion, as many were, that there was no possiiblity of turning any ship around. I'm surprised Lynch was so nice to him. I mean, pretty much everyone thought he wouldn't improve as a president and indeed he didn't, he only got worse. So that post may have just angered Frost just as much if not more.
I get that but what I'm saying is that Lynch's initial comment in the full interview was not in any way approving or disapproving. It was strictly matter of fact, distanced, analytical (albeit without much analysis attached). That’s what I'm saying Frost would have understood, though I understand how political Frost is and so maybe it was Lynch's offhandedness that might have upset him...but I don't think so. Pointless talking about it, was my other point.

And Agent Earle, I'm in agreement with you. Which is all I was trying to get across, that in this case I don't think we should look at political talk as having anything to do with the unfollow.
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Jonah wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:58 pm I feel it won't be entirely set in the 50's if it goes that route. It might explore more of the origin of Judy/Sarah as a little girl, but I can't see a direct time travel route, plus it didn't seem like Richard and Carrie were in the past (if it picks up there, if the dream wasn't shattered with the scream, etc.). Also, as others have pointed out on here, Frost would likely have been interested in a 50's-set prequel, so I don't see it myself. Might be a part of it, certainly, but doubt it will be a full thing or a direct time-travel storyline.
Yeah I have to agree with you. It’s supposed to be 13 episodes according to the copyright so it’s possible we get one or two episodes in the 50’s but I can’t see the whole thing being set during then.
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Jonah wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:54 pm It seems to have filtered in to a lot of stuff lately - other movies, books, Stephen King is another good example. Then again, the current era has been very political, the whole world was watching the US president, that one in particular, and great art often does reflect the world's climate. (Brexit also filtered into some stuff, though not nearly as much?) It is a bit annoying seeing people fighting about it on social media and falling out over it, or it being worked into every storyline, etc. (Even the sitcom WIll and Grace, and all kinds of other media too!) But it is what it is, I guess. At least Twin Peaks itself didn't really have very heavy examples of this bleeding into it's actual on screen storyline.
The Return is extremely political, imo, but it works so well precisely because it isn't agenda-driven and because it presciently taps into the tenor of the times rather than being about a specific, trendy, on the nose thing.
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I meant the specific stuff, direct references, etc.
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Jonah wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:04 pm I meant the specific stuff, direct references, etc.
Sorry, I was actually agreeing with you. :D
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Lynch's comments always came across to me as being very in line with his belief that disruption is both natural and can be good, and I think his comment was about this theoretical potential in the situation, not the job performance in practice.
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These last few pages have been a great read! Thanks to everyone, this is getting exciting.

Sorry to keep going back to this, but… consider that part of Lynch’s deal with Netflix is that the entire project is filmed in secret, with no announcements. I imagine that Netflix would be game. Footage from Snoqualamie has already been shot, either quietly during the pandemic or during the Return. And everything else is being filmed on stages at Calvert.

We do know that Lynch was incredibly bothered about spoilers during filming of the Return. Perhaps he decided he didn’t want to deal with that again?
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This is obviously not really based on anything but rampant, Lazy Sunday fueled daydreaming on my part...but when I imagine a 50s set thing with the Sarah/Judy origin story/prequel type stuff in it I don't imagine it being strictly limited to that narrative thread or even the rest of the TP world. Perhaps there would be a thread set in Hollywood in the 50s with a Marilyn Monroe type character or a Hollywood director character, with nods to MD. Maybe the threads intersect eventually if Sarah/the girl from New Mexico eventually moves to LA to pursue her dream of being in the movies, maybe Coop travels back to that time period somehow (Kyle has been referencing time/time travel a bit). Or, hell, Roswell is right there in NM so maybe there's a thread similar to what's described in Antelope with space aliens. Obviously none of this is probably true but there's a lot of possibilities for Lynch to take the 50s thing and run in a million different directions in it, if you don't assume he's strictly adhering to the world of TP/making a direct S4.
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madeleineferguson wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:47 pm These last few pages have been a great read! Thanks to everyone, this is getting exciting.

Sorry to keep going back to this, but… consider that part of Lynch’s deal with Netflix is that the entire project is filmed in secret, with no announcements. I imagine that Netflix would be game. Footage from Snoqualamie has already been shot, either quietly during the pandemic or during the Return. And everything else is being filmed on stages at Calvert.

We do know that Lynch was incredibly bothered about spoilers during filming of the Return. Perhaps he decided he didn’t want to deal with that again?
Netflix has been known in the past to drop stuff without any prior notice. I’m sure that if Lynch wanted to do this in total secret they’d do it
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The upcoming new Scream movie was mostly filmed on soundstages and as a result very few spoilers have leaked. Some did for the early outdoor-shot stuff, but everything shot in studio has remained mostly secure, apart from a lot of what's likely fake pseudo-leaks.

Not sure how Lynch would feel about shooting mostly in a studio, but he's certainly no stranger to it, and may like the extra control and security it provides like Hitchcock did. So I wouldn't be surprised if he amped up the in studio stuff even more. Additional loction stuff could be happening towards the end of the shoot. That said, I'm not sure anything is actually filming, or if it is it started very recently, last week or two. Deming being in NYC potentially discredits that too, though.
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