World of Blue - Archived Forum 2007-2022

zeronumber wrote:

Troubbble wrote:

zeronumber wrote: I purport that Audrey is Tina.

Perhaps she is suffering a schizophrenic split in which Tina is her other self. Who has a life, a daughter and apparently issues with which Audrey hates.

Charlie is some sort of facilitator... And to be clear and eliminate any ambiguity...

The phone call he place to "Tina", may have all been a charade! (There was no Tina on the phone!) He already knew all the somewhat shocking details and was only pressing Audrey by not telling her the things which she may already know as "Tina" but has not been able to dissociate as Audrey. (And maybe vice versa)

Was loving this idea at first, but now I'm stuck... Can't reconcile the fact that the daughter identifies her mother as Tina.

Still an interesting thought otherwise, though.

The girl knows her as Tina...and may or may not know about Audrey. (If she does...maybe she needs to play along. She is obviously a player, herself...with secrets?)

Troubbble wrote:

Pinky wrote:I hope for Naido's sake that they buy Sarah's story, otherwise she's taking a trip to the holding cells and that will make for an interesting night...

Sarah wasn't in Twin Peaks when she encountered that trucker, was she?

Regardless though, I think the stage *is* set for some strange goings-on to come in those holding cells.

LateReg wrote:

firefly2193 wrote: I personally just think its either occasionally poorly written or has been unnaturally extended to make 18 parts. There's the potential that Frost and Lynch legitimately thought TPTR would be viewed by people who had never seen Twin Peaks before - which, after the first two parts, is definitely not the case - and therefore stuck in lots of unnecessary exposition. But then they simultaneously wrote a show that would make literally zero sense to any new viewer. Similarly, a lot of the over exposition is about things we the audience have already seen - in particular the FBI slowly debriefing the events that have gone before. This perhaps suggests to me that these scenes have been added to extend a script that was originally written with 9 parts in mind.

Obviously that is pure speculation, and I can't wait for the new information to come out from producers, crew, perhaps even Frost, after this is all wrapped up. I would *love* to see the original script. Unless the ending changes everything, I would also love to see a 12 or 14 hour edit of this whole thing. TPTR is actually primed for some very interesting re-edits - how would the whole thing feel if it was divided up differently? Say, each different storyline edited as one continuous long piece? Or re-cut in chronological order? As with most fan edits, I'd expect these not to work as well as the original, but I'd suspect a 12-14hour edit could be brilliant.

I agree about the potential for interesting re-edits. But I am strongly against the whole idea that some scenes exist just to pad it. Lynch wanted the freedom for it to be as long or short as he wanted it. The exposition scenes in particular aren't necessary for padding; this film didn't need to be any specific length. Trimming all the exposition scenes barely shortens the film when you think of it in terms of episodes, because episode lengths vary. He could have had every episode be 48 minutes rather than "add scenes." Because of the freedom of Showtime, there was no need to pad the film, and Lynch could have easily removed an hour or two of material and still came up with 18 Parts. I still think the more expositional scenes like those you mention are in line with those in the original series, and like you say are often telling us what we already know, catching us up in a way that makes me think they are done with a wink and a nod, and keep me on my toes when imbalanced with everything else that is left open to interpretation. They also feel strangely realistic, as sometimes in life people have the same conversations multiple times...it just usually doesn't make for good TV!

Pinky wrote:

Troubbble wrote:

Pinky wrote:I hope for Naido's sake that they buy Sarah's story, otherwise she's taking a trip to the holding cells and that will make for an interesting night...

Sarah wasn't in Twin Peaks when she encountered that trucker, was she?

Regardless though, I think the stage *is* set for some strange goings-on to come in those holding cells.

Oh, of course, I didn't think about that, you're right.

cgs027 wrote:

Pinky wrote:

Troubbble wrote:

Sarah wasn't in Twin Peaks when she encountered that trucker, was she?

Regardless though, I think the stage *is* set for some strange goings-on to come in those holding cells.

Oh, of course, I didn't think about that, you're right.

Why wouldn't we think Sarah was in the Twin Peaks area? It's certainly likely that there's more than one bar in town, no?

Dreamy Audrey wrote:It was "Elk's Point #9 Bar". I thought it was in Twin Peaks, and I don't think there was anything that suggested it was somewhere else. Sarah was walking there. Why would she walk to a different town to have a drink if she can have a drink in Twin Peaks?

whoisalhedges wrote:

Dreamy Audrey wrote:

BigEd wrote:
Probably in grade school a class had two girls who went by "Janey." One was Janey Evans. One was Janey Cole. So, the teacher called them by Janey-E and Janey-C. Janey-E stuck as a nickname. Probably happens from time to time.

That's my guess as well, but wouldn't she have been "Janey E." rather than "Janey-E"? It seems like the addition of a hyphen was deliberate misleading so everyone would think it's a middle name instead of a last name.

But that's not really how nicknames work... Nicknames can even not have anything to do with given names, like "T-Bone," or (my long-standing nick) "asshole."

walking to the bar

Dreamy Audrey wrote:It was "Elk's Point #9 Bar". I thought it was in Twin Peaks, and I don't think there was anything that suggested it was somewhere else. Sarah was walking there. Why would she walk to a different town to have a drink if she can have a drink in Twin Peaks?

referendum wrote:

walking to the bar

Last episode we saw sarah palmer run out of vodka at home.
This episode we see her walking from her house to a bar to get a bloody Mary.

I know there have been arguments about the time-line and continuity in TP TR, but I think the above two scenes occurring one after the other, we can be fairly confident they are connected and that there is no hidden ambiguity.