Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

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Pinky wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:46 pm just rewatched 18. At the end of the Sheriff Station scene, it almost fully fades in to the Cooper head for a few seconds and we hear the wind sounds. It feels like a callback to the Red Room scene where the curtains drop out and we see infinite lodge space. Does it feel like the realization Dreamer Coop is having is taking place at a particular repeat of that moment? Can't remember how often the wind motif came in or where.
Hmm is it similar to the wind noise that opens every episode?
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Mr. Reindeer wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:53 pm
Pinky wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:46 pm just rewatched 18. At the end of the Sheriff Station scene, it almost fully fades in to the Cooper head for a few seconds and we hear the wind sounds. It feels like a callback to the Red Room scene where the curtains drop out and we see infinite lodge space. Does it feel like the realization Dreamer Coop is having is taking place at a particular repeat of that moment? Can't remember how often the wind motif came in or where.
Hmm is it similar to the wind noise that opens every episode?
Are we talking about the right episode? I don't recall the Sheriff's station in this part...
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Oh yeah, Pinky definitely means Part 17. I didn’t even notice this in the wrong thread! The poor Part 17 thread is so much shorter than all the others because everyone just posted in this one that night!
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ah sorry folks, they're very close together in my head and I was reading about three of the Parts threads at once
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Pinky, I certainly agree that it is the exact same framing as in ep.2 (as well as how Cooper is positioned when frozen on the VCR recording in the Jeffried scene in FWWM), and don't think it is a coincidence. The only thing I disagree with you about is that it happens in episode 17 :D
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Pinky wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:46 pm just rewatched 18. At the end of the Sheriff Station scene, it almost fully fades in to the Cooper head for a few seconds and we hear the wind sounds. It feels like a callback to the Red Room scene where the curtains drop out and we see infinite lodge space. Does it feel like the realization Dreamer Coop is having is taking place at a particular repeat of that moment? Can't remember how often the wind motif came in or where.
Good pick-up/suggestion. Whether or not it is the same wind sound, I believe that scene has always pulled at a viewer's intuition and begged them to try to decipher where Cooper's big face is currently at, and if we've seen it before. And since the likely place is sitting in that chair in the lodge in Part 2, that matches up with your interpretation of the wind-sound whether it's exact or not. I can recall the exact sound you're talking about, but I'll have to check it out with comparison in mind.
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On approaching the desert location where Cooper will exit the car at 430 mile mark ("the threshold"), we see skid marks on the pavement. Those look to be the ones that Mr. C's car was making as he was losing control of it (judging by the surrounding ground features). If so, then that was the place where Cooper and Mr. C were supposed to swap places earlier.
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boske wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:46 am On approaching the desert location where Cooper will exit the car at 430 mile mark ("the threshold"), we see skid marks on the pavement. Those look to be the ones that Mr. C's car was making as he was losing control of it (judging by the surrounding ground features). If so, then that was the place where Cooper and Mr. C were supposed to swap places earlier.
Are we sure that's the same place? Apart from it being the desert, I remember the terrain looking pretty different. It would make sense, though.
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Rainwater wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:01 am
boske wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:46 am On approaching the desert location where Cooper will exit the car at 430 mile mark ("the threshold"), we see skid marks on the pavement. Those look to be the ones that Mr. C's car was making as he was losing control of it (judging by the surrounding ground features). If so, then that was the place where Cooper and Mr. C were supposed to swap places earlier.
Are we sure that's the same place? Apart from it being the desert, I remember the terrain looking pretty different. It would make sense, though.
FWIW, Axxon N. and I discussed this awhile ago in the Part 3 & 4 thread: http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 18#p123818
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Mr. Reindeer wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:36 am
Rainwater wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:01 am
boske wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:46 am On approaching the desert location where Cooper will exit the car at 430 mile mark ("the threshold"), we see skid marks on the pavement. Those look to be the ones that Mr. C's car was making as he was losing control of it (judging by the surrounding ground features). If so, then that was the place where Cooper and Mr. C were supposed to swap places earlier.
Are we sure that's the same place? Apart from it being the desert, I remember the terrain looking pretty different. It would make sense, though.
FWIW, Axxon N. and I discussed this awhile ago in the Part 3 & 4 thread: http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 18#p123818
I watched part 18 a week ago and noticed the skid marks, it looked like there was a definite emphasis placed on them, so it could have been intentional, although I did not compare the terrain frame by frame, it is just that the textures looked similar.

Now what made me watch the part was interesting. I had ordered TPS3 DVDs in March of 2020, and the parcel was declared lost in May or so (no air traffic due to Covid). I then got the DVDs in a roundabout way from elsewhere. I was very surprised last Saturday that a package arrived with DVDs in it, they were probably at the Dutchman's for almost a year and a half. I also had another lost order that came in too, having only some music CDs: Bowie's "Blackstar" and "No Plan", Johhny Jewel's "Themes For Television", and finally TPS3 Bang-Bang Bar CD.

It would be superstitious to say, but this could be a good sign for more Twin Peaks. :lol:
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"You will see your parcel in 25 years" does sound like a common Amazon customer service reply.
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I have not ordered from them since. It is funny though that I now have two S3 boxes, the first must be a Mr. C one. Just in case, I will keep the boxes separated so they do not annihilate each other. :lol:
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That is interesting. Just to make sure I took the "what year is this?" still into Photoshop, to see if it could be the red-striped tie but with minimal lighting, but it is indeed a black tie, also used in other red room scenes in The Return. In both the pilot and episode 29 the tie is red (although a ridiculous variant of it in the pilot). Also it seems, like I've mentioned here before, that when Cooper gets stuck at 2:57 he is in the same framing as when frozen at the elevator in Fire Walk With Me + and he is also stuck in this framing in TPTR part 2 when the doppelganger starts to interfere. So a loop that has several doorways to jump through - but probably never out of.
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