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Re: Possible deleted scene from The Return?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:40 am
by Histeria
Mr. Reindeer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:23 am
It’s from a 12/01/1950 Dumont broadcast called HOLD THAT CAMERA. The clip is here at four minutes in:
https://archive.org/details/HoldThatCameradec.11950
The detective guy with the gun is Roscoe Karns, doing a promo for his show ROCKY KING DETECTIVE, which was on following this broadcast. You can see more of him promoting his show in the longer clip after the hostess Kyle MacDonnell (NOT MacLachlan) sings her song. The other host is Rex Marshall.
Thank you!
I got to this series the day I posted it and couldn't find ant uploaded copies of the kinescopes. When I read that only two survived I thought "out of all the daily talk shows, films and drama episodes ever produced, surely it won't turn out to be from two surviving episodes of one of the first shows I came across"
That's that solved. Thanks again. Still very cool.
Re: Possible deleted scene from The Return?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:49 am
by Histeria
Tbf. That's a spitting image.
Re: Possible deleted scene from The Return?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:49 am
by Mr. Reindeer
BTW — in reference to a comment made above — NO live TV broadcasts from that era exist in color. They were preserved, if at all, via the kinescope process, which involved filming the camera video feed—which was B&W—as the broadcast occurred. So, even a color broadcast from that era would only exist in B&W form today (the TV version of CASINO ROYALE—the first ever James Bond adaptation, with Peter Lorre as the villain—is a famous example).
Re: Possible deleted scene from The Return?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:10 pm
by Jonah
Wow, my investigations weren't even close. Well done.
IMDB link (now that we know what it is) -
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402653/
Trivia - "Kinescope recordings of two episodes are confirmed to survive. The rest of the series is believed lost."
Re: Possible deleted scene from The Return?
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:57 am
by kitty666cats
https://www.kelmanstudio.com/character? ... e0af7b4936
https://www.kelmanstudio.com/character? ... 0890cf4866
Tangentially related, but has anyone seen these before? Interesting that they had Carlton Lee Russell fully in-costume, only to use an incredibly brief snippet of his mask superimposed with Grace Zabriskie's face. Makes me wonder what went on there... such an eerie presence that could easily have been effectively used in even the *littlest* bit more capacity. And yet, nothing! Must have been SOMETHING filmed, which must have just not 'worked out' for one reason or another...