General Discussion on Season 3 (All Opinions Welcome)

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Postby N. Needleman » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:20 pm

Just a random aside: Seeing people marveling (haha) this week at the high-security methods designed to keep a lid on spoilers for Avengers: Infinity War and the final season of Game of Thrones made me giggle - almost everything mentioned was done by the Twin Peaks team during production of Season 3, and some of these projects' attempts at secrecy are frankly junior league by comparison.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:52 pm

N. Needleman wrote:Just a random aside: Seeing people marveling (haha) this week at the high-security methods designed to keep a lid on spoilers for Avengers: Infinity War and the final season of Game of Thrones made me giggle - almost everything mentioned was done by the Twin Peaks team during production of Season 3, and some of these projects' attempts at secrecy are frankly junior league by comparison.


It seems like there have also been some pretty big leaks on the upcoming Avengers movie, although I’ve avoided reading them. It is impressive how a relatively rinky-dink operation could seemingly match the legal power of a behemoth like Disney (who own like 90% of the world at this point...they now own National Geographic!). I wonder what Rancho Rosa’s legal budget looked like.

Also all the more baffling that such open access was given to shooting at the Palmer house for the final scene of the entire piece.
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Postby IcedOver » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:42 pm

Mr. Reindeer wrote:Also all the more baffling that such open access was given to shooting at the Palmer house for the final scene of the entire piece.


Yeah, I don't know who the people were from the public who were allowed to watch that scene being filmed, but it seems that they would have wanted an absolute clampdown on any access to all the scenes with MacLachlan and Lee. Then they included a shot from that scene in a commercial.
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Postby LateReg » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:31 am

IcedOver wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:Also all the more baffling that such open access was given to shooting at the Palmer house for the final scene of the entire piece.


Yeah, I don't know who the people were from the public who were allowed to watch that scene being filmed, but it seems that they would have wanted an absolute clampdown on any access to all the scenes with MacLachlan and Lee. Then they included a shot from that scene in a commercial.


Some have pondered, and I tend to agree, that Lynch didn't mind if that scene got out to further subvert expectations. Which it certainly did as it influenced a ton of theories leading up to the release. I didn't engage in any spoiler discussion, but looking back (and even at the time) I often wondered if certain theories stemmed from knowledge of spoilers. At any rate, Lynch had to have known it could get out.
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Postby mtwentz » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:12 pm

LateReg wrote:
IcedOver wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:Also all the more baffling that such open access was given to shooting at the Palmer house for the final scene of the entire piece.


Yeah, I don't know who the people were from the public who were allowed to watch that scene being filmed, but it seems that they would have wanted an absolute clampdown on any access to all the scenes with MacLachlan and Lee. Then they included a shot from that scene in a commercial.


Some have pondered, and I tend to agree, that Lynch didn't mind if that scene got out to further subvert expectations. Which it certainly did as it influenced a ton of theories leading up to the release. I didn't engage in any spoiler discussion, but looking back (and even at the time) I often wondered if certain theories stemmed from knowledge of spoilers. At any rate, Lynch had to have known it could get out.

The only thing that scene spoiled was the knowledge that Sarah would not answer the door, but rather the actual owner of the house. That took away a little of the tension of the scene away because your average viewer was expecting a Laura vs. Sarah confrontation but I knew that wasn't going to happen based in description of those who saw that scene filmed.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:30 pm

In a season that I think undeniably delighted in subverting audience expectations, to various thematic/tonal/intellectual/emotional ends, that leak (if intentional) plays as the ultimate subversion of spoiler culture. They seemingly intentionally let the scene out into the world completely devoid of context, let fans dream about where the scene leads/what it means for a full year and a half.....and then ended the series with it, leaving us to STILL continue dreaming about where the scene leads and what it means. While the eighteen hours of the show undeniably provide valuable context for the final scene, we’re really not too much more knowledgeable about what Laura’s scream means and what happens next than we were when the scene was shot and the leak occurred. (Those who hold that L/F were engaging in trolling for a lot of the series also have an argument that the leak is Exhibit A, although I personally disagree.)

The flipside is that it’s like one of those movie trailers that reveals the ending. There was something frustrating about already more or less knowing the content of the final minutes, the thing that everything else had been building up to. A sad air of inevitability (which maybe was also the point, in a way). There will always be a part of me that wishes I could have enjoyed that sequence for the first time as a pure experience without the spoilers, though.
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Postby IcedOver » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:37 pm

I didn't know about any witness stories from that filming before watching other than a report that neighbors were told to expect screaming. Really, I didn't have anything spoiled, not even evil Coop's hair.
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Postby N. Needleman » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:11 pm

I knew Cooper and Laura/Carrie went to the door and found the real owner there. (Until the finale aired I wasn't sure if the last detail was a placeholder for a scene to be shot on a set elsewhere later.) I knew they went down the stairs at some point and that Cooper would stumble around, Laura would scream and the lights in the Palmer house would go out. But I knew no context.

I always knew the sequence was coming. I suspected it would be near the end. But even knowing that didn't ruin it for me.
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