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Postby eyeboogers » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:41 am

Just started reading Mark Frost's "The Six Messiah" from 1995. Despite having read and enjoyed "The List of 7" (and its connections to the "Twin Peaks" mythology) I somehow never got around to its sequel. This passage makes it seem as if there could be some "The Return" clues to find in this book. Also this is in a section of the book which rapidly changes scenarios from the expected Victorian age England (of the first novel) to unexpected places like a cross atlantic boat, Bute Montana, Chicago, a possibly mystical realm etc. What I mean by that is that it also seems structurally there are some parallels between this book and the first half of "The Return".
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:13 am

Interesting! Mark has repeatedly said that he wanted the new season to unfold like a novel, and also that he was the one who really pushed to expand the world beyond TP (whereas DKL has always said he loves “neighborhood stories”). I think most of us attributed the “dreamer” stuff to DKL, due to the Upanishads passage, but Mark can be a surprising guy.

I still need to get around to reading Mark’s books. I promised my girlfriend I’d read Brandon Sanderson’s Oathbringer after I finish Room to Dream, so my next several months of reading time are unfortunately booked up.
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Postby Poiuyt » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:25 pm

Jerry Horne wrote:I'm not sure if this article has been mentioned yet, but there is some good stuff here. I think John Thorne is interviewing the author for the next issue of Blue Rose Magazine:

http://politicsslashletters.org/dreamer ... ks-return/


From the episode 8 Log Lady introduction:

"In a dream, are all the characters really you? Different aspects of you? Do answers come in dreams?"

Hmm...
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Postby NewtoTwinPeaks » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:25 pm

Random thought but I really wish they had some stuff on the Bookhouse Boys in the new season. It was a part of the older season that I thought was one of the most interesting.
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Postby kitty666cats » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:36 pm

NewtoTwinPeaks wrote:Random thought but I really wish they had some stuff on the Bookhouse Boys in the new season. It was a part of the older season that I thought was one of the most interesting.


If BOB and company only truly got summoned into the world during the nuke test, then I want to know more exactly about what "presence"s the Boys have been battling for several generations. TSHOTP also makes it clear that there have been sinister forces in the woods for centuries. So damn confusing! Hawk and company also seem to flip-flop repeatedly between knowing plenty about Glastonbury Grove and knowing next to nothing about it. Also, Blackfoot seems to have been retconned into Nez Perce. Mark and David really should have watched ALL of the original series a few times, rather than only (apparently) revisiting a few episodes. Mark seems to have probably revisited more than Lynch did... or just has a better memory!
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Postby eyeboogers » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:34 am

kitty666cats wrote:
NewtoTwinPeaks wrote:Random thought but I really wish they had some stuff on the Bookhouse Boys in the new season. It was a part of the older season that I thought was one of the most interesting.


If BOB and company only truly got summoned into the world during the nuke test, then I want to know more exactly about what "presence"s the Boys have been battling for several generations. TSHOTP also makes it clear that there have been sinister forces in the woods for centuries. So damn confusing! Hawk and company also seem to flip-flop repeatedly between knowing plenty about Glastonbury Grove and knowing next to nothing about it. Also, Blackfoot seems to have been retconned into Nez Perce. Mark and David really should have watched ALL of the original series a few times, rather than only (apparently) revisiting a few episodes. Mark seems to have probably revisited more than Lynch did... or just has a better memory!


Actually TSHOTP is quite specific about that. The portals/gateways (ex. Glastonbury Grove) have been around for ages. What happened with the trinity test was that Parsons and friends summoned the goddess Babalon/Judy. A specific malevolent being. This disrupted the balance of things.
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Postby kitty666cats » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:03 pm

eyeboogers wrote:
kitty666cats wrote:
NewtoTwinPeaks wrote:Random thought but I really wish they had some stuff on the Bookhouse Boys in the new season. It was a part of the older season that I thought was one of the most interesting.


If BOB and company only truly got summoned into the world during the nuke test, then I want to know more exactly about what "presence"s the Boys have been battling for several generations. TSHOTP also makes it clear that there have been sinister forces in the woods for centuries. So damn confusing! Hawk and company also seem to flip-flop repeatedly between knowing plenty about Glastonbury Grove and knowing next to nothing about it. Also, Blackfoot seems to have been retconned into Nez Perce. Mark and David really should have watched ALL of the original series a few times, rather than only (apparently) revisiting a few episodes. Mark seems to have probably revisited more than Lynch did... or just has a better memory!


Actually TSHOTP is quite specific about that. The portals/gateways (ex. Glastonbury Grove) have been around for ages. What happened with the trinity test was that Parsons and friends summoned the goddess Babalon/Judy. A specific malevolent being. This disrupted the balance of things.


Aren't the Trinity test and Parsons' attempt to summon Babalon two very very different occurances? I have read TSHOTP and listened to the audiobook a few times. P sure his attempt to summon Babalon was just Parsons dicking aroudn in the desert with Hubbard, and then he met Marjorie Cameron not long after.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:42 pm

Parsons was conducting rocket fuel experiments, very different from Oppenheimer’s Trinity/Manhattan Project escapades that led to the nuking of entire populations in Japan. It is implied that Parsons is seeking a similar outcome to the birth of Judy in the Trinity test, though (creating an opening for an otherworldly female entity via a huge explosion science thought impossible), and it is also implied that his experiments in the desert give rise to the Roswell incident, two years after Trinity. Presumably he allowed a DIFFERENT being to enter the world (the one Douglas Milford sees in captivity).
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Postby Jerry Horne » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:35 pm

Most likely not TP related:

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Postby mtwentz » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:42 pm

Maybe Amy is getting her own Neflix series?
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Postby krishnanspace » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:52 pm

She was also in a video game recently
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Postby NormoftheAndes » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:05 pm

Jerry Horne wrote:Most likely not TP related:

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Why would they be announcing any news at a Twin Peaks event which has nothing to do with Twin Peaks? WHAT THE HELL?! :shock: :shock: :lol:
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Postby jakemartinez » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:13 pm

NormoftheAndes wrote:
Jerry Horne wrote:Most likely not TP related:

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Why would they be announcing any news at a Twin Peaks event which has nothing to do with Twin Peaks? WHAT THE HELL?! :shock: :shock: :lol:


Right? Seems kind of silly to think she would have news for something not related to the reason they’re all there.
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Postby Soolsma » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:24 pm

Jerry Horne wrote:Most likely not TP related:


Curious as to what makes you say that? Seeing this is at a TP panel and all...! But yeah, could be anything, for all we know she's pregnant or something. Still, Shiels playing Candie announcing another season in a sluggish and cryptic way would probably be the best thing that could ever happen.
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Postby Jerry Horne » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:34 pm

I want it to happen but I'm tampering all expectations.

As a strange aside, the next Great Conjunction (when Jupiter and Saturn meet) takes place in December 2020. The last one was 18 years ago.

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