Season 4? Or is it over after this?

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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:30 pm

The new Scream movie filmed their entire finale (including a recreation of the famous California house from the original, interiors AND exteriors) in a studio in North Carolina.

I've read that movies like Hitchcock's "Marnie" and, perhaps more notably, "Camelot" were criticized for filming outdoor scenes in studios/on studio backlots, so location shooting became the norm since the 60's. Interesting if we're returning to that, CGI aside. Though things are more advanced, will this lead to artificial-looking sitcom-style exteriors in some cases? But it could add to the ambiance in certain cases, especially in a Lynch movie.
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I'm not sure if I'd count that as such. It's technically an interior, just with rear projection. A lot of productions do that for driving scenes. Plus I think they did a good job of combining footage in another similar scene to make you believe Kyle was really on the strip.

By "artificial-looking sitcom-style exteriors", I meant more something like this:

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Or this (from an actual sitcom):

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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby LateReg » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:54 pm

The new Scream movie filmed their entire finale (including a recreation of the famous California house from the original, interiors AND exteriors) in a studio in North Carolina.

I've read that movies like Hitchcock's "Marnie" and, perhaps more notably, "Camelot" were criticized for filming outdoor scenes in studios/on studio backlots, so location shooting became the norm since the 60's. Interesting if we're returning to that, CGI aside. Though things are more advanced, will this lead to artificial-looking sitcom-style exteriors in some cases? But it could add to the ambiance in certain cases, especially in a Lynch movie.
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I'm not sure if I'd count that as such. It's technically an interior, just with rear projection. A lot of productions do that for driving scenes. Plus I think they did a good job of combining footage in another similar scene to make you believe Kyle was really on the strip.

By "artificial-looking sitcom-style exteriors", I meant more something like this:

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Or this (from an actual sitcom):

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I get where you're coming from and note the difference. But I think Lynch was going for a certain artificiality in that (those) scene(s), which lends the sort of weird ambience that you referenced. Which is possibly why enumbs posted it.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:59 pm

Yeah or maybe the scene with Coop and Diane outside the red room. Maybe that was actually filmed outside but I think the trees and the puddle had a sort of heightened, artificial look.
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(Even the Marnie scenes sort of worked in a surreal way, highlighting her alienation.)
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby enumbs » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:18 pm

I get where you're coming from and note the difference. But I think Lynch was going for a certain artificiality in that (those) scene(s), which lends the sort of weird ambience that you referenced. Which is possibly why enumbs posted it.
It was just a scene that came to mind considering all the talk of artificial exteriors. I generally like Lynch’s lo-fi effects, but this is my least favourite, probably because it does not take place in any kind of supernatural or dream context (although with Twin Peaks who knows?). I don’t think the effect is entirely deliberate, but I expect Lynch let it slide considering the inherently goofy nature of the scene. An odd thing is that the only other scene with a similar feel - the strikingly blue day-for-night scene - also occurs in Part 4. I remember wondering if Albert and Cole’s story would continue to display this kind of crude artifice, but it was mostly in keeping with the rest of The Return after this point.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby kingchatterbox » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:27 pm

Just came across this podcast interview with Balthazar Getty (posted in May, seems like it was recorded a little earlier?): https://soundcloud.com/deandelray/528-b ... or#t=22:14

He says he's "talking right now" about working with Lynch on something!

He also tells a fun Lost Highway story that I'd never heard.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Panapaok » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:35 pm

Not a huge fan of Getty, but it's something, I guess!
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby kingchatterbox » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:47 pm

Not a huge fan of Getty, but it's something, I guess!
Yeah, me neither. He always came across to me as a spoiled brat (and he certainly doesn't come across any less spoiled in that interview...) But Lynch seems to like him. Not sure if this is evidence for Unrecorded Night being Twin Peaks related or not, but I thought it was interesting.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby LateReg » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:08 pm


It was just a scene that came to mind considering all the talk of artificial exteriors. I generally like Lynch’s lo-fi effects, but this is my least favourite, probably because it does not take place in any kind of supernatural or dream context (although with Twin Peaks who knows?). I don’t think the effect is entirely deliberate, but I expect Lynch let it slide considering the inherently goofy nature of the scene. An odd thing is that the only other scene with a similar feel - the strikingly blue day-for-night scene - also occurs in Part 4. I remember wondering if Albert and Cole’s story would continue to display this kind of crude artifice, but it was mostly in keeping with the rest of The Return after this point.
The effect has always seemed deliberate in its artificiality to me, and even calls attention to that artificiality, imo. Whether he wanted it to seem realistic and then changed his mind after seeing the artificial way it turned out doesn't really matter to me because the aesthetic fits with the rest of the effects in the series (outside of the very realistic effects of Part 8). That said, on premiere night I was very much confused about all of it, and the driving scene especially stood out like a sore thumb. It was only later that I understood it to be intentional and of a piece with the rest. I think the vibe is also similar to some of the Vegas strip driving scenes.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:32 pm

So since Balthazar Getty has been talking with Lynch in May, I’m guessing other actors would also have been contacted by Lynch.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:35 pm

So since Balthazar Getty has been talking with Lynch in May, I’m guessing other actors would also have been contacted by Lynch.
If this is an original production, one wonders if this means auditions were already occurring before the March shutdown?

Or if it’s TP, one wonders if Lynch was VERY close to beginning production in March 2020, given how little notice cast members got on TR?

Very curious.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:55 pm

This reminds of someone’s comment where it said that some actor (I think Ray Wise) asked Lynch during filming of the return why he had such a small role and Lynch said that he would be contacted for a future season
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Stavrogyn » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:28 am

This reminds of someone’s comment where it said that some actor (I think Ray Wise) asked Lynch during filming of the return why he had such a small role and Lynch said that he would be contacted for a future season
I guess we shouldn't take this as more than a rumor, but I hope it is true. I really liked Ray Wise's role in The Return - it was short, sad, and poignant - and it would completely make sense if Lynch decided that in the new timeline Leland is still alive. It wouldn't be just bringing Wise back because they are friends and because of his Twin Peaks legacy, etc., etc. It might actually be interesting narrative-wise.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:11 am

Maybe that’s the Unrecorded night. When Cooper saved Laura , they were going together in the woods and Laura disappears. The next time we see Laura is in Texas. Maybe if unrecorded night turns out to be Twin peaks, I’m guessing it could be the story of that night and Laura’s future. Most of Lynch’s films have the theme of a woman in distress.

But the fact that Balthazar Getty might be involved does not make sense in my above prediction. His character was not in Twin Peaks in 1989. So if he is involved I’m guessing it has to be some continuation in the present time or it’s a completely new show
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:23 am

I remember hearing Ray Wise was disappointed to only have two words. I also remember hearing an actor say that Lynch said or implied they'd have more to do in Season 4, but I think it was one of the new actors, unless it was both.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:31 am

So I was checking out Instagram stories and while scrolling through the stories, I came across the official Twin Peaks account. So since Festival of Disruption is going on, George Griffith has taken over Twin Peaks's Instagram account. George had a live video stream going on and one of the viewers asked him "Is there going to be a Season 4??????" to which he replied by taking a pause , looking away from the camera , thinking what to say and he finally says , "I can't talk about it right now".
The video is still available on the Twin Peaks Instagram story but I suspect it won't be available for much longer
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