NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Come on guys: He explicitely says that season 2 sucked, and EVERYBODY is convinced he means the opposite. This is what psychologists call "groupthink".
We are all excited, but no need to get sectarian. Remember Ockham's razor? When somebody says something sucks, he probably doesn't like it.
I'm sure that he did not mean that every single second of season two sucked. But I totally believe that he is not happy with the overall quality.
We are all excited, but no need to get sectarian. Remember Ockham's razor? When somebody says something sucks, he probably doesn't like it.
I'm sure that he did not mean that every single second of season two sucked. But I totally believe that he is not happy with the overall quality.
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And we're adding another 18 episodes/hours on top of that. If S3 is as good as hoped, the "bad" portion will be a blip in the overall story that will be easily passed through on the way to the end.mtwentz wrote:It's either just laziness on the part of Lynch, Robertson, Fenn, etc., fuzzy memories, or possibly they are speaking from the way they experienced it.sylviecerise wrote:Maybe Lynch forgot that the first several episodes of S2 were separate from S1? The first two episodes of S2, which he directed, are some of the best. But when re-watching the whole show together, those first few episodes of S2 seems to fit more within S1.
Or maybe he just meant the experience of filming S2 sucked, with the constant network drama, etc. Who knows, it definitely seems he's just really cranky.
Season 2 has three distinct phases in my mind- the first 7 which are arguably as good or better than season 1, the next 8 or 9 which ranged from 'so-so' to outright bad, and the last 5 or 6, where the quality picked up again, but not quite to the heights to where the series had been before (with the possible exception of ep. 29).
Adding up the numbers, there are more 'good' episodes than there are 'bad' ones- it's just that some of the bad ones are truly godawful.
But overall, Season 2 was a great season of television.
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With all the people talking about ratings and viewers dropping along the way, I happened to come across this New York Times article written in 1991. It's very interesting to read, especially because it relays the notion that the majority of viewers were apparently unimpressed with the killer's reveal at the time, calling it a cop-out and whatnot.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/05/arts/ ... wanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/05/arts/ ... wanted=all
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I've never been able to stop myself from looking at spoilers for any series or film, but this might be the first if there are going to be spoilers tonight. We're just too close and Twin Peaks is too important.
Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
Ockham's razor is not meant to be as reductive as possible for the sake of it, but to be as concise as possible -- it does not mean eliminating branches of potential meaning as a principle in itself, but that we should consider it of importance to identify which branches hold substance and working in their boundaries. It is not an argument for the cancellation of complexity.Rhodes wrote:Come on guys: He explicitely says that season 2 sucked, and EVERYBODY is convinced he means the opposite. This is what psychologists call "groupthink".
We are all excited, but no need to get sectarian. Remember Ockham's razor? When somebody says something sucks, he probably doesn't like it.
I'm sure that he did not mean that every single second of season two sucked. But I totally believe that he is not happy with the overall quality.
When Lynch, or anyone, says S2 sucks, it means different things. I just read Reflections, and there was a loose consensus that S2 fell awry -- with myriad differences in how those speaking defined S2. MacLachlan made it a point to say 'the latter half' of season 2, someone made a point even to pinpoint 'the late half, before it got tighter,' etc. As for what Lynch means when he says it, I believe, with no evidence, that he's talking from a production standpoint. Overall, Season 2 fell awry on the level of collaboration, camraderie, artistic control, etc. It ended in such a compromised position, and existed in a harmed status for so long that I think overall he took it as a negative indictment against the whole of S2, as a single unit, and a period in time. It doesn't betray his previous anecdotes about how great he thought of individual moments of directors'/writers' contributions.
I find it shocking he's only very proud of the pilot, though, considering his consistent defense of FWWM, including recently.
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Well, he was asked specifically about "aspects of the series".AXX°N N. wrote:I find it shocking he's only very proud of the pilot, though, considering his consistent defense of FWWM, including recently.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I do not understand why anyone would call the reveal on Nov. 10 a 'tease'.LateReg wrote:With all the people talking about ratings and viewers dropping along the way, I happened to come across this New York Times article written in 1991. It's very interesting to read, especially because it relays the notion that the majority of viewers were apparently unimpressed with the killer's reveal at the time, calling it a cop-out and whatnot.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/05/arts/ ... wanted=all
I would definitely call the Second Season Premiere a tease though.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I assumed Lynch was talking about Twin Peaks the TV show. I'd be truly shocked if he wasn't still proud of FWWM.AXX°N N. wrote: I find it shocking he's only very proud of the pilot, though, considering his consistent defense of FWWM, including recently.
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I just love David Lynch. He's not the best interviewee but he has a great philosophy toward the creation process.Twink Peaks wrote:
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Is this the same location that the Festival of Disruption was at?Jerry Horne wrote:Tonight.
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Jerry Horne wrote:Interview with Art Director Cara Brower:
https://www.format.com/magazine/feature ... ara-brower
Huh?Lynch put the cast and crew on a five year ban.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017
I think he was referring to the catering.AXX°N N. wrote:As for what Lynch means when he says it, I believe, with no evidence, that he's talking from a production standpoint.
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Yes.brett wrote:Is this the same location that the Festival of Disruption was at?Jerry Horne wrote:Tonight.
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