SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:11 pm

Annie is said to be born in 1973 and is 12 in 1985, which would make her 16 when Cooper sleeps with her!
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Ironic considering Heather Graham was already several years younger than Fenn when she was brought in to replace her as Cooper's love interest when Audrey was considered by Kyle to be too young (and the LFB stuff too).
Yeah, IIRC the book makes it clear that she is older than that given how many years pass in her storyline. The timeline just doesn’t make sense. There are too many years’ worth of events jammed into an impossible period between 1985 and 1989.
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Quoting from another thread.
Saw Mark tonight in Portland.

He said "You are going to like where Hawk ends up".

"You might remember Lana Milford, Miss Twin Peaks 1989".
Did anything ever come of this? How did Hawk end up?
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:53 pm

Quoting from another thread.
Saw Mark tonight in Portland.

He said "You are going to like where Hawk ends up".

"You might remember Lana Milford, Miss Twin Peaks 1989".
Did anything ever come of this? How did Hawk end up?
TFD reveals that Frank is only interim sheriff once Harry gets sick, with Hawk intended to take over in 2018.

Lana became Miss Twin Peaks as the runner-up after Annie remained unconscious (which makes sense).

Just read the books, Jonah. :mrgreen:
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:55 pm

:lol: I also thought perhaps Hawk and Lana get together - he was quite taken by her!
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:57 pm

Lol. I also thought perhaps Hawk and Lana get together - he was quite taken by her!
That was Hawk’s worst moment in the series. I always hoped we could meet his girlfriend, Diane Shapiro, PhD. So many mysterious Dianes on this show.

No, Lana goes on to date Donald Trump and a bunch of other rich people. It’s also implied that she was an assassin who killed Dougie Milford!
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:04 pm

Dougie Milford
Speaking of which, in reading about the books, it seems like he became a very interesting character!
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:08 pm

Dougie Milford!
Speaking of which, in reading about the books, it seems like he became a very interesting character!
Yeah, I really enjoy what Mark did with him. As a sort of “blank slate” character whose backstory could be filled in, Mark really took him to some very fun places. He’s really the backbone of TSHoTP, and the way Frost weaves him in and out of various conspiracy theories is a big part of why I loved the book. In TFD, Mark also takes advantage of the fact that Dougie does indeed appear to be wearing a jade ring in all his series scenes!
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:17 pm

In TFD, Mark also takes advantage of the fact that Dougie does indeed appear to be wearing a jade ring in all his series scenes!
It's weird how he could remember something like that or rewatch it and notice it and then make use of it, but forget/not notice the whole Vivian thing, as you pointed out earlier (especially as there's overlap as her last episode is Dougie's first!). (Wonder if Mark was going by memory - hardly for the ring thing, which implies he rewatched the mid-Season 2 stretch - or rewatching and if so why those weak post-reveal episodes, Dougie appears in pretty much the same but somewhat worse section of the show than Vivian.)
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:23 pm

In TFD, Mark also takes advantage of the fact that Dougie does indeed appear to be wearing a jade ring in all his series scenes!
It's weird how he could remember something like that or rewatch it and notice it and then make use of it, but forget/not notice the whole Vivian thing, as you pointed out earlier (especially as there's overlap as her last episode is Dougie's first!). (Wonder if Mark was going by memory - hardly for the ring thing - or rewatching and if so why those weak post-reveal episodes, Dougie appears in a worse stretch of the show than Vivian.)
Again, this is the skeptic in me (I really like Mark! But he self-admittedly didn’t revisit the old episodes before writing). The material about Dougie wearing the jade ring in the original show (and specifically in his death scene) is only in the second book. By that point, he had already made a big deal about Dougie as a character and about the ring, as separate (but closely intertwined) things, in TSH. A number of fans tweeted at him between books, with screen shots of Dougie wearing a green ring. I think he only made this connection after fans noticed it, although it was certainly a nice bit of serendipity, and he did a great job of taking advantage of it.
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Re: SPOILERS: Inconsistencies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:34 pm

Well, both things do appear in same set of episodes, so sounds right.

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