Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:49 pm
so many possibilities... the idea above that all the series 1-3 could be just a dream in "a Richard" 's head would be such an old (and terrible) trick... it would work though.. (Until Carrie/Laura screams... could this be her dream instead? (dream within a dream)??)
(and were Audrie's scenes just another example of a such a dream by another dreamer)
Such "dream theories" would remove any need to clarify or conclude any subplot or mythology elements, and would provide a definitive "end" to TP.
But I somehow refuse to accept that Lynch/Frost go completely "meta" (and rehash the same M Drive idea), rewriting all season 1-3 facts as someone's dream.
If instead we want to believe most of "Twin Peaks" was "real", we could see everything up to ep 17 being such, with Cooper's face superimposed to mean this reality would be soon wiped out by cooper's retroactively saving Laura from her death, and thus unmaking most of season 1-3...
It could be that the impending "unmaking" of said reality would make it "dreamy"... This could explain why Cole, Cooper talk about "being in a dream", because this "timeline" will soon be discarded and survive as just a dream in their minds alone (is this the meaning of Jeffries telling "Cole will remember the unofficial version"??)
This would make for a classic "time travel" plot (with Pete not finding Laura's body in the rebooted timeline, etc) and as some pointed out, makes unnecessary closing many subplots, since we now now they'd ve been undone anyway.
But why then showing Dougie/Coop getting back in Vegas, if everything will soon be retconned?
Should we instead assume saving Laura just created a second separate/alternate timeline and both realities will exist (one with laura dead, one not)?
(BTTF 2 style)
In this case, the "being in a dream" reference would make less sense to me though.
In any case, in ep 18 we go further with the full alternate reality (not just alternate "timeline") of Richard & Linda, which complicates things to the n-th degree, forcing us to make additional guesses, e.g. maybe "Judy"/evil snatched Laura from Dale's hands and displaced her to an alt reality... and Fireman possibly giving hints to Cooper on how to try to rescue her or Coop's wish to "fix evil for good"...
All this speculation seems somehow contrived though, don't you agree?
If we accept everything as "fact" (as opposed to just dream) ep 18 would make up the basis for a great new season 4 where all these guesses could be verified...
Since this has never seemed the plan, having to accept this as the intended ending leaves me extremely puzzled, partly exhilarated, partly frustrated.
One thing's sure, if no followup will come, I'll be haunted by this finale for the rest of my days.. even more than the original ending (which was quite more "literal" and understandable, in retrospect) and as some suggest, this might be David's wish (such an ending would seem to me so much more David's than Mark's)
final point: as things goes, be it all dream or a retconned timeline or an alternate timeline... I currently fail to see how Mark's next book could be really of interest if it concentrates on covering the 25th yrs gap of a no-more existing peaks ... ?? yep, I know all this is just fiction, but being provided more details of a dream or similar is not going to be worth the ride for me
(that sad, I'm still looking forward to it with a naive hope of getting some clues on the S3 ending instead)
thanks to anyone who'll be patient enough to follow through all my ramblings... forgive me, I must be suffering some weird kind of PTSD
(and were Audrie's scenes just another example of a such a dream by another dreamer)
Such "dream theories" would remove any need to clarify or conclude any subplot or mythology elements, and would provide a definitive "end" to TP.
But I somehow refuse to accept that Lynch/Frost go completely "meta" (and rehash the same M Drive idea), rewriting all season 1-3 facts as someone's dream.
If instead we want to believe most of "Twin Peaks" was "real", we could see everything up to ep 17 being such, with Cooper's face superimposed to mean this reality would be soon wiped out by cooper's retroactively saving Laura from her death, and thus unmaking most of season 1-3...
It could be that the impending "unmaking" of said reality would make it "dreamy"... This could explain why Cole, Cooper talk about "being in a dream", because this "timeline" will soon be discarded and survive as just a dream in their minds alone (is this the meaning of Jeffries telling "Cole will remember the unofficial version"??)
This would make for a classic "time travel" plot (with Pete not finding Laura's body in the rebooted timeline, etc) and as some pointed out, makes unnecessary closing many subplots, since we now now they'd ve been undone anyway.
But why then showing Dougie/Coop getting back in Vegas, if everything will soon be retconned?
Should we instead assume saving Laura just created a second separate/alternate timeline and both realities will exist (one with laura dead, one not)?
(BTTF 2 style)
In this case, the "being in a dream" reference would make less sense to me though.
In any case, in ep 18 we go further with the full alternate reality (not just alternate "timeline") of Richard & Linda, which complicates things to the n-th degree, forcing us to make additional guesses, e.g. maybe "Judy"/evil snatched Laura from Dale's hands and displaced her to an alt reality... and Fireman possibly giving hints to Cooper on how to try to rescue her or Coop's wish to "fix evil for good"...
All this speculation seems somehow contrived though, don't you agree?
If we accept everything as "fact" (as opposed to just dream) ep 18 would make up the basis for a great new season 4 where all these guesses could be verified...
Since this has never seemed the plan, having to accept this as the intended ending leaves me extremely puzzled, partly exhilarated, partly frustrated.
One thing's sure, if no followup will come, I'll be haunted by this finale for the rest of my days.. even more than the original ending (which was quite more "literal" and understandable, in retrospect) and as some suggest, this might be David's wish (such an ending would seem to me so much more David's than Mark's)
final point: as things goes, be it all dream or a retconned timeline or an alternate timeline... I currently fail to see how Mark's next book could be really of interest if it concentrates on covering the 25th yrs gap of a no-more existing peaks ... ?? yep, I know all this is just fiction, but being provided more details of a dream or similar is not going to be worth the ride for me
(that sad, I'm still looking forward to it with a naive hope of getting some clues on the S3 ending instead)
thanks to anyone who'll be patient enough to follow through all my ramblings... forgive me, I must be suffering some weird kind of PTSD