Part 10 - Laura is the one (SPOILERS)

[Framed_Angel]

That song at the end would have been more impactfull & better remembered if it actually was for a important story scene... tonights was wasted as has been said its the most Twin Peaks sounding song yet but it just ended up been a 5 minute music video to end the part... Surely David is not just going to use these musicians to play their song at end & not actually create any good scenes with them also.

I can relate to the frustration that comes with so many questions opening up throughout the series, and naturally we want answers. The thing I keep in mind for sequences of strictly music, is that DKL has used meditation for a personal practice and artistic engine. He's not on record to my knowledge stating one's informing the other but I try to think of the music as his invitation to let go and experience the song. Yeah it's staged and at times feels disconnected with what else is going on, but there have been exceptions where we did see action so Lynch is keeping me guessing! Anyway that's how I prefer to transcend my own "what would *I* have accomplished with those five minutes? Solved #A and #B and #C riddles and mysteries is what I would have done!" impulse and instead focus on the 45 or so minutes that did intrigue and/ or frustrate me.

And I say that as someone not criticizing your mention of it, I was moving my browser's cue Fast-forward through the latter part of del Rio's song and lingering on the stills just to see if any more action WAS going to take place! ; )

[TheGum]

Also- re: all the billionaire speculation

No one ever said conclusively that the room setter upper is ACTUALLY a billionaire. That kid was kind of a dope, he said he "heard it was..." could easily be macho posturing to impress coffee shop lady.

[anthoto1]

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I'm not sure this is the right topic (or the right forum btw) for a controversy about human strength evolution.

[rocketsan22]

Who was the woman that Richard kills at the beginning?

miriam. the girl who stoped by the dinner and saw richard drive over the little kid. i think she was breathing. maybe she wont die

I had my suspicions, thanks. Damn that's cruel

Ya, the lines about her phoning the police to tell them she saw Richard hit the kid...and the lines about her mailing a letter to the police wasn't enough to resolve your susupicions? Ay carumba...

[Agent327]

You just contradicted yourself. You said that if we have differences of opinion, we are divided. .

No I didn't. For the love of god.......I specifically pointed out what causes division, and thus is has nothing to do with the fact that people naturally have differences of opinion.

When you choose to engage on such a fundamentally dishonest level, which one can only assume is fully deliberate since your verbal skills showcase a comprehension level far beyond the substance of your arguments, it reveals aggression and agenda on your part.

And this misrepresentation is evident in your entire post.

I can literally sit and poke holes in each sentence, one after the other from you, revealing how you either misrepresent what I say, how you leave out facts that are absolute key to the argument, and in some cases you're plainly twisting facts, heck, you even manage to do it with historical facts on top of it bearing no relevance whatsoever to my point.

If I went through it line by line, it would end up being quite off topic and most likely boring to everyone interested in this episode of Twin Peaks. But more importantly, I'd be wasting my time entirely, judging by the complete lack of intellectual honesty you're displaying.

[DeepBlueSeed]

miriam. the girl who stoped by the dinner and saw richard drive over the little kid. i think she was breathing. maybe she wont die

I had my suspicions, thanks. Damn that's cruel

Richard had kept the gas open and he lit a candle. Maybe the house exploded later

Although I thought that's what the candle would be for when I saw it, I tried to see if the knobs were turned and wasn't sure I saw one.

I assumed therefore, from the noises we hear, that he'd used the oven door to smash her over the head with as she lay on the floor.

Still, someone said one of the knobs HAD been turned, so I'm happy to accept that if it is the case (it seems weird that he'd leave the crime scene as it was, particularly since he was trying to cover up a previous crime).

[DeepBlueSeed]

She doesn't seem like the brightest one. She also could just have not mentioned the letter.

Isn't she a teacher?


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Yes you are right. If I had one problem with this episode, it is the fact that Miriam was stupid enough to let Richard know when she had sent the letter. If she was really afraid of him, she could have either gone directly to the sheriff or skipped town. But being in the situation she was in, she should have told him she had already notified the sheriff.

I'm pretty sure she says she told the police - though possibly just to convince Richard it was too late to do anything about it. Not that that worked. It seems bizarre in itself that she sent a letter to the police station, but then the town of Twin Peaks has always been delightfully retro (even in a town where the sheriff's computer monitor pops out of his desk).

[Cappy]

I'm sure when Hawk visits the scene of Miriam's trailer fire, he'll spot some unusual tire tracks and investigate further.

Also, I wouldn't put it past Lucy to go through Chad's desk/garbage just out of boredom.

[DeepBlueSeed]

Still not convinced Evil Coop is actually a billionaire. But it looks like people were right to make the connection between Experiment/Mother/the playing card. "This is what I'm looking for." The box was meant to trap it? Or just capture it's image, for some reason.

I'm still wondering what happened to it after it killed the young couple.

Its a crime scene, probably infested with FBI. Since they dont know the owner and the security people seemed to have skipped its just them there. If something was happening further
Gordon would know, and we'd know

By 'it' I mean I wonder what happened to The Mother creature, having materialised in this world.

[yaxomoxay]

Great review of this episode by The New York Times: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/16/a ... oogle.com/


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[KyleRickards]

Sorry for reposting but everything seems to get lost in the initial rush after the episode airs!

So did anyone have a view on that little device on Cole's desk in the hotel room - just where he's sketching the animal and the arm?

(The Arm!)


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[DeepBlueSeed]

Looks like it's going to be a storm around six or seven episodes from now.
(sorry if this has already been mentioned here - I haven't had the time to check out the thread completely yet)

Yeah, I did wonder why there was such a big thing made about that.

On a similar note, now it's confirmed that Dougie made the news I'm wondering where the FBI will end up heading next.

[Cappy]

On a similar note, now it's confirmed that Dougie made the news I'm wondering where the FBI will end up heading next.

I'm guessing that the Vegas cops running Dougie/Coop's prints will somehow draw the FBI's attention. I think Dougie just made local news, so I don't think anyone outside of the Vegas characters will notice.

[Cappy]

So is 'The Experiment' creature from episode 1 the same as 'The Mother' creature that spewed BOB out into this world?

I suspect that 'The Experiment' was an attempt to create a new mother and harness it's dark power, but that's just my guess. I suspect that the experiment was somehow birthed by the ritual that killed Maj. Briggs and Ruth the librarian, but that could've just been a summoning.

[mtwentz]

In my view, it is perfectly legit to bring up the topics of the violence against women in the show. It is obviously there for a reason- there is no way anyone can deny The Return is showing more violence against women than most T.V. shows. But what it 'means' is where the debate is.

I think the sad reality of the world is that women are much more susceptible to being the victims of violence than men, and that is what is being depicted by Lynch/Frost. That being said, for some balance, it is probably about time for a man to be victimized on the show. So far we've only had the beating taken by the casino manager. We have not had any men killed onscreen yet by another human being.