Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (Spoilers)

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dud wrote:Image

credit goes to u/dahmer on reddit
It's not displaying on my screen , it just says "Image". Perhaps highlight the link and then press the "Img" button? Evenso, the URL that you used itself isn't working. What was it supposed to be?
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Pöllö wrote:
Ross wrote:Is Goaz wearing a false belly? He's much thinner in real life, correct?
What I thought too. I think so.
No, that impressive gut is 100% real. You can see it, for instance, in the short film featuring Goaz that came out around the time of the return announcement (and features Goaz waiting for a call from Lynch). I don't know how an otherwise skinny man achieves a belly like that, but by golly he seems to have done it.
:lol:

Otherwise it's amazing how similar he looks, acts and sounds as Andy. I think he's done an outstanding job.
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Greeting (or, better... HELL-OOOOOO!)
I lurked for the past couple of days.
Here's my take:
1) The more the story goes, the more it becomes coherent. Watching the 1st episode was a continuous WTF. The beginning of E3 was WTF but mainly for what was on screen, not plotwise. It was clear that Dale was moving towards the various planes. At the end of S4 things are getting a little bit clearer (yet weird).

2) Wally Brando was great! At first I was like "when does this scene ends?" And then I was on board with him. It was also a clear trolling session by Lynch.

3) Dougy!! I love him, but I can't wait to see him go.

4) The coffee scene is clear: things are going back to "normal". The real Cooper, and the old "coffee and cherry pie" Twin Peaks is there. We just have to wait a little bit more, after all we had our main character in the Black Lodge for 25 years...

5) What is watching over Cooper? He was aided both in the Black Lodge, and at the Casino. Also the owl was looking down on him when he stood in front of the red door, he was aided from being hit by the snipers etc. So what is watching after him? And why was he let winning jackpots over jackpots?

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phillipjeffriestp wrote:Personally, I would say that the ghost is the blind women Cooper met after falling moments after being in the glass box. I guess glass box is some kind of Project Blue Book experiment created to capture ghost/entities from Black Lodge/Shadow Universe.

In episode 3, the blind woman moves her hands like they were sharp swords in a way that seems she wants to warn Cooper of something.
Guessing it is her, or the "mother" she is warning us of—the noise in that scene when she is gesturing is the same noise the ghost makes when it is killing the nyc teens.
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Seeing Wally Brando spelled out ... I just noticed Andy and Lucy named their kid after Waldo the Myna Bird!
God, I love this music. Isn't it too dreamy?
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I think that cgi was only used to create unnatural effects occurring in the red room (such as movement of the Arm and the pullback of the drapes to reveal the white mare), but not to create the red room itself. It's much easier to create a real life replica of the red room then to recreate the room digitally. The setting of the red room is generally simple and Does not involve the level of detail that the Star Wars prequels used for their backgrounds.
It seems like it's the use of HD, rather than film like the original series, which is creating an artificial artiface.

As a non-sequitar, I rewatched the scene with the black and white tiles moving up and down when the Arm's doppelgänger corners Cooper, and it looks like that scene was created using practical and not digital effects.
Ross wrote:So what's the consensus on if the Red Room scenes are all CGI now or now. I had heard they built a red room set, but they sure look CGI to me. They look fake in a distracting way. Could it just be an illusion of being shot on digital?
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What if the blind woman is Judy (who was suppose to be Josie's cousin, right?)
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Did anyone else get a Grand Moff Tarkin Episode 7 vibe from The Giant?
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I've looked in the American Girl's room for the blue rose some viewers are seeing -- and I can't find it. Can anyone pinpoint exactly when/where it appears?
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On the table near the machine/outlet with the numbers, I believe.
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chromereflectsimage wrote:What if the blind woman is Judy (who was suppose to be Josie's cousin, right?)
This is what my mind immediately went to when we first saw her!!! The only thing that disproves this theory is her being credited as Naido.
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Anyone wonder if Bob might end up being that evil entity that attacked the young couple from the box?

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rocketsan22 wrote:has the possibility that Eddie Vedder is going to play a BOB derivative been discussed?
Vedder is just going to be performing an end credits song at the Roadhouse. Seems like all the musicians will be doing this.
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After a second re-watch, I've gone from Cooper is still in a lodge/ alternative dimension Mulholland Drive style world to that he is indeed out in the "real" world. All that said, am I the only one who gets a distinct Naomi Watts pre and post MD shift with the 1-9-9 mother and son? Something about the kid especially seemed very directly alternate Sonny Jim. Also, that was a Heather Graham look alike in the casino, but maybe randomly so.

And I'm just assuming the Lost Vegas scene in the pilot where the casino owner gives money for someone to do a job is him putting out the hit on Dougie Jones, based on orders from Evil Cooper, who somehow through interaction with the dancing dwarf/ swaying tree has created a clone of Cooper to give him a loop-hole out of being sucked back to the Lodge (hell?) and knew aproximately when and where to put out the hit on Dougie/ Coop. On the other hand, I theorize that Evil Coop was deliberately putting himself in federal prison (based on him scanning the plans), and am not sure how all this works with the timing of the car crash and Dougie being sucked into the Lodge.

Lastly, one episode back, but is the obvious thing in that whole New York staring into the box sequence that it is about coffee? Whatever is breaking through that box is going for something, and those two cups of coffee look really enticing, given that the show spends about 10 minutes establishing that the coffee is there... Maybe it really is Coop in some form or another coming through?
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Audrey Horne wrote:Seeing Wally Brando spelled out ... I just noticed Andy and Lucy named their kid after Waldo the Myna Bird!
I thought this too -- it's a frustratingly near-perfect anagram of "Waldo Mynah Bird," but it's off enough that I don't think it's intentional (or else is poorly done if intended). Wally Brando's name would need another "L," and doesn't use the "M" and "H" in "Mynah."
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