counterpaul wrote:Dom834 wrote:counterpaul wrote:Evidence points to The Return taking place in September of 2014.
This is all sound. However we have to explain this: (Tamara's afterword to her final report to Gordon Cole, August or early September 2016):
Oh, I'm definitely ignoring the dates (and pretty much everything) in TSHOTP. Dates in all the books are totally screwy. Nothing new there.
I find a bit baffling that you put on the same footing two off-shoots put together by Lynch's daughter and Frost's brother with a lot of creative freedom and minimal supervision (and a right retained by the series' creators to change anything those books said when writing the rest of the series) while the two creators were extremely busy developing the show, and a novel Frost himself conceived and wrote after after being immersed in the Twin Peaks universe and season 3 with David Lynch for nearly four years.
You must believe he's got Lucy's IQ at best if you think he set his FBI frame story that book ends the novel on the wrong dates. It's like THE thing he couldn't screw up. Frost isn't an imbecile either, he knew when he wrote his prologue/epilogue if those events were set before, after or during the series's time frame. He does refer to the previous events/dates related to the Cooper affair. 1989... "a crime or crimes in 1991" - unsolved, location and details classified. A crime scene from July 2016, location and details classified. He mentions Jeffries' reappearance seen in FWWM, and the fact he's not been seen or heard of since. Logically, some of the Cole/Tammy events should be in the book, if it was set after the series. It considers Cooper is still missing.
That leaves two main options: the series is set in 2016 a month after the end of the novel
or the novel is set after the series' end and it's a FBI scam meant to cover up what will happen in the series. To be honest, I find it strange that Frost precisely ended the novel with Tammy Preston hoping she'd soon be allowed to learn more about the Cooper case soon, mere weeks before the current month the series events are sent on, but it wouldn't be in the same year. Unless he specifically chose to set the novel in August to mislead us to believe it leads straight into the start of the series, set on September. Well know, when more oddities between novel and new series surface.
I don't buy the whole Nevada arc is in 2003 either btw. By all evidence, Dougie, Doppelgänger, Cooper outside the Black Lodge are all synchronized, and so is the NYC story arc. I'm guessing the South Dakota arc is too.
I think the Twin Peaks arc is most likely in sync with the rest. However, there are all the references to "is this future or is this past?" - and one those occurs right after the scene with Hawk at the Grove, which along Wally being 24 could be a clue TP events are set in 2014. We'll see.
In fact, time seems extremely significant. "The stars turn and a time presents itself." These things are happening because the time has come for them to happen. That's what the show is telling us, anyway. At least so far.
And Frost puts a bunch of sayings by Carl Rodd in the book related to time. "There is only now." "What is, is. What was, was"....
Lucy having an extremely long pregnancy is a very Twin Peaks absurdity. It doesn't bother me in the least.
14+ months? I don't know what to make of that, even in Twin Peaks. But I wouldn't rule it out.