Theories & Speculation

[dropkick23]

I think the theory of the body being Major Briggs is pretty good, considering his head - and only his head - floats by Coop with a "Blue Lodge."

Nice

[DouglasFir]

Hi folks,

I am enjoying season 3/the return so far! And I enjoy reading the forum here, it is interesting to read everyone's interpretation of the show. I have some of my own and thought that this might be the best place to post some observations/recurring themes/questions - sorry in advance for the spoilers:

1. Eyes: The victim Ruth appears to have been shot through the eye. Nadine Hurley (Ed's wife) was missing an eye. The glass box on the building in NY - I am taking this to be a representation of an eye - taking in images, storing them. The scene where Cooper appears in the box and the box "resizes" - it is like your eye does when focusing on something near or far. The malevolent entity that kills Sam and Tracey - I took this to be some violence or damage that occurs to the (eye of the) person that the building represents. When Cooper enters the room with the fireplace for the first time, he encounters a woman who has no eyes. I think it was ol' Bill Shakespeare who wrote that "the eyes are the portals (windows) to the soul" - is DL implying that this woman has no soul? (Cooper meets here as he is falling through "unexistance" (or however Arm 2.0's doppelganger put it))
2. Heads: Ruth's severed head is placed at the neck of an as-yet unknown body. When Dougie gets to the red room, his head pops. Pictures from the glass box crime scene reveal that the malevolent entity removed Sam and Tracey's heads. Col. Briggs "floating" head.
3. Blue Rose: Back when it had message boards, I remember reading a post on IMDB where someone speculated that "blue velvet" referred to sexual abuse of boys, and "blue rose" referred to sexual abuse of girls. Not my theory but I like it. In FWWM, Chester Desmond explains that the murder they were to investigate is one of Gordon's "blue rose" cases. In S3, Gordon mentions that nothing became of his "blue rose". Is this all about an unsolved blue rose case?
4. The lodge where Evil Dale collects Ray and Darya: To me it is a "real" place, whereas the Black Lodge/White Lodge is an imagined version. I could draw some parallels between the characters in the "real" lodge and the imagined ones: Otis reminds me of the Waiter (played by Hank Worden); the crippled man in the wheel chair - the Man From Another Place; the mulleted giant - as the giant. (Not sure about Buella though - where she fits, what character she represents.)

I really enjoy Lynch's work, it is like a Zen koan, like a splinter in your mind where you have to keep working at it until you get it out. Looking forward to the remaining episodes. Thanks for reading!

-Douglas

[OneEyedJack]

(Not sure about Buella though - where she fits, what character she represents.)

Perhaps Laura - talking about the world of truck drivers (like Leo Johnson)

[tamygdala]

Jacoby & the gold shovels - I don't know why but I attribute this to the uncovering of the dossier. Doesn't the book state that the dossier was found at a crime scene in/near Twin Peaks? I'm guessing the dossier was buried and Jacoby is the one who uncovers it.

Has anyone discussed the possibility that Hastings' secretary (Betty) might be Betty Briggs? There's all that talk about getting info from Hastings' secretary. If Mr. C is after coordinates (which I assume are related to one of the Black Lodge/Hellgate portals) and IF that is Major Briggs' corpse (minus head) in Ruth Davenport's apartment, then Betty Briggs would be the next logical person to interrogate.

It is possible that after Briggs discovered Cooper was no longer Cooper he suspected his life would be in danger and the fire that claimed Briggs' life was a cover story, or faked, and Betty and Garland went underground, changed their names (last), moved to South Dakota. Not even their son would be told the truth, because if he did know the truth, Mr. C would surely come looking for him. And maybe he still does, or maybe someone else (Jeffries) does. Would certainly make for an interesting subplot.

Also, hasn't Charlotte Stewart claimed to have filmed a small, yet crucial role?

[DouglasFir]

-patrick fischler character hands his employee money and says 'tell her she has the job' who is 'she', darya? bill hasting's assistant betty? judy? does he work for phillip?

Watts' character doesn't seem like someone who would be with Dougie, so that makes me agree with the folks who say that she's the person hired by the Casino manager.

There are two casinos, IIRC: the scene that you're referring to is from the one in Atlantic City. To me that suggests that the person that was hired by the casino manager was Tracey - to get into the room with the glass box, to find out what was going on.

[Bloodflood]

Isn't Tracey someone the guy who was watching the box knew from school or something? I felt like they met before that.

[DouglasFir]

Isn't Tracey someone the guy who was watching the box knew from school or something? I felt like they met before that.

Agree, that is implied when Sam explains that he found the job "through the school" - as if they were both students. Perhaps that is why she was hired?

[Coffee]

I agree that there's something amiss with the two Hawk/Log Lady scenes.

Even the repetition of "Goodnight Margaret" seems strange. "Goodnight" is a kinda shorthand for "see you tomorrow" and the fact he says it twice is strange IMO.

[sp.agent.dalecooper]

Not sure how Sam talking about getting the job to help pay for school insinuates in any way that he knows Tracey from school. Did he really say he got the job "through the school"? I remember it as him saying it was to help him "get through"(i.e. pay for) school

To me all we can infer at this point is that Tracey works at a Cafe that delivers and she has delivered several times to Sam to the point that they have a slight rapport.

[DouglasFir]

Not sure how Sam talking about getting the job to help pay for school insinuates in any way that he knows Tracey from school. Did he really say he got the job "through the school"? I remember it as him saying it was to help him "get through"(i.e. pay for) school

To me all we can infer at this point is that Tracey works at a Cafe that delivers and she has delivered several times to Sam to the point that they have a slight rapport.

Poor choice of words on my part - suggests would have been a better word than implied. Sorry

You are also correct about the paying for school bit. I have found the script, and this is how Sam's line is written:

[man] It's just a job I got to help with school.

Read more: http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk ... ode=s03e01

[Jerry Horne]

I paid attention to Tracey's eyes last night and, I mean it's hard to tell but I think she really wanted in that room. (As opposed to just having a crush on Sam)

Another obvious one from me.

[krishnanspace]

I paid attention to Tracey's eyes last night and, I mean it's hard to tell but I think she really wanted in that room. (As opposed to just having a crush on Sam)

Another obvious one from me.

At first I thought she was a news reporter who has come to investigate this strange experiment

[sp.agent.dalecooper]

I paid attention to Tracey's eyes last night and, I mean it's hard to tell but I think she really wanted in that room. (As opposed to just having a crush on Sam)

Another obvious one from me.

I agree, just from her non verbal cues in the lobby

The quick sex then for the purpose of...? Potentially get a stronger immediate influence over Sam?

Just trying to sort out why if she was externally motivated(hired?) to get in that room, why she would so quickly engage in something that takes up a good amount of her attention.

[wxray]

Hi folks,

1. Eyes: The victim Ruth appears to have been shot through the eye. Nadine Hurley (Ed's wife) was missing an eye. The glass box on the building in NY - I am taking this to be a representation of an eye - taking in images, storing them. The scene where Cooper appears in the box and the box "resizes" - it is like your eye does when focusing on something near or far. The malevolent entity that kills Sam and Tracey - I took this to be some violence or damage that occurs to the (eye of the) person that the building represents. When Cooper enters the room with the fireplace for the first time, he encounters a woman who has no eyes. I think it was ol' Bill Shakespeare who wrote that "the eyes are the portals (windows) to the soul" - is DL implying that this woman has no soul? (Cooper meets here as he is falling through "unexistance" (or however Arm 2.0's doppelganger put it))
-Douglas

Gerard's (Strobel) left eye is messed up or replaced with glass. On another thread I asked about this and someone thought it was a real life medical condition.

I'm starting to think otherwise. Too many left eyes gone or damaged. It may be a clear communication to us that he intentionally removed the eye, like he did the arm earlier. Or something/someone removed it for him.

[wxray]

So people would be happy with a much-treasured character like Major Briggs - and by implication Don Davis - being literally thrown away as a bloated, mangled corpse?

This is one thing that's truly troubling me too. I mean it'd be one thing to write out Major Briggs like that if Don Davis was still alive and declined returning to the show, but seeing such a well respected actor, who's been dead for over a decade, have his character written out like that doesn't sit right with me.

However that seems to be the direction the shows going in, or at least what Lynch and Frost are leading us to believe at this point. We've still got 14 episodes to go though, so time will tell.

Henry Blake was sent off in M*A*S*H in a rather shocking and ugly way.