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by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Let's hear you say it. Go ahead. Say: "David Lynch has a responsibility as an artist" David Lynch is a responsible artist And that's where the glaring hole in your argument lies. Values are relative. To a Woman of God it might not be "responsible" to show any sex of out wedlock....
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:24 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Yes this thread is about gender. But this specific argument goes beyond gendered violence. Like I've said over and over, an artist does not have any responsibility to you or your ideas. Interesting how you won't outright say, "Yes Lynch has a responsibility as an artist" but rather you sp...
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:04 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Yes, depicting violence against women with no payoff "might be reckless" but it's early in the show to make that judgment call. Come back after the end when it's pertinent. You don't seem to be understanding. Definition of reckless 1 :  marked by lack of proper caution :  careless of cons...
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Justify and needed aren't synonymous, friend, nice try again with the semantic derailing. Note you said "need to justify" in your response to AgentEcho. Replace need with justify in that sentence. lol You took the words out of context, I highlighted their context for you. This is just der...
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

And we keep saying no one said he "needed" to do anything. OK so change it to Lynch doesn't have to justify anything. Like I've said repeatedly the words reckless, justify, irresponsible (and I showed you people using these words, but you literally took them out of their own context and c...
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:35 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

I never said you shouldn't discuss anything. All I've been saying, all along, is that the artist (in this case David Lynch) doesn't need to justify anything. So you'd say the same thing about DW Griffith? Which is why I brought that up. It's an extreme, dogmatic perspective, frankly. Basically, tha...
by ScarFace32
Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:31 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

And we keep saying no one said he "needed" to do anything. OK so change it to Lynch doesn't have to justify anything. Like I've said repeatedly the words reckless, justify, irresponsible (and I showed you people using these words, but you literally took them out of their own context and c...
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:21 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

See, I'm not talking about censorship at all, I'm not sure why you are bringing it up. Conversations are a lot more coherent for both parties when they choose to discuss the same subject. I'm not absolving the people of blame, but I am saying that when an artist chooses to express something as D.W....
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:12 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

I'm all for free expression, but I'm also for people being able to freely express their experience with art. This is the same series where there's an entire subsection of fans who are arguing that the existence of the series isn't justified because there's not enough pie, coffee and jazzy music so ...
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:15 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

You are the only one using these words, friend. You out right wrong about that I'm curious, ScarFace32, do you believe that art has any responsibilities? Trying to understand your position on art/artists. Do you believe that artists should create whatever they want with no regard for their audience...
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:01 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

You pulled these words out of context and painted them as an argument about responsibility that you're deliberately obfuscating with expectation in order to have something to attack. Nice attempt at derailing, though. Furthermore, if you wanted us to debate the tentative suggestions in those isolat...
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Or you're mistaking the meaning of responsibility with expectations. No, words used such as reckless, unjustifiable, irresponsible are in reference to responsibility and not expectation! You are the only one using these words, friend. starmand wrote: I don't think I've ever posted before, if I have...
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

sylvia_north wrote:
ScarFace32 wrote:
sylvia_north wrote:Or you're mistaking the meaning of responsibility with expectations.
No, words used such as reckless, unjustifiable, irresponsible are in reference to responsibility and not expectation!
You are the only one using these words, friend.
You out right wrong about that
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

sylvia_north wrote:Or you're mistaking the meaning of responsibility with expectations.
No, words used such as reckless, unjustifiable, irresponsible are in reference to responsibility and not expectation!
by ScarFace32
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 267134

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return

Internal responsibility? Coherence and success? What are Twin Peaks' "own thematic interests"? I think this was adequately covered in other posts, too, but here goes again: There were zero female characters thrown dismissively under the bus in season 1&2. They were all well-drawn. The...